KULCAT wrote:.I will repeat my point that Nomar has not declined the past two years and you cannot say as you did that "Nomar´s game has been in decline the past few year" 2000 was 4 years ago and I already stated that he is not the same player that he was before the injury
So what exactly are we discussing here? Im saying he´s in decline BECAUSE of the injury2002 2003
BA .310 .301
OBP .352 .345
SLG .528 .524
Runs 101 120
RBI 120 105
SB 5 19
HR 24 28
In a 5x5 league his value went up in 2003. In a 4x4 league it stayed pretty much the same as it did in a points league (depending on the scoring system that you use).
So he went down in everything except runs and h´rs? Good thing he showed a little more pop but the runs thats has to do more with that lineup he was in. check out he´s splits of runners in scoring position too. I dont believe you can use 2 years in a row as evidence for a player being solid or dependable and even more if the first year is better than the secondInfinity is right that you cannot determine his value until we see how he comes back from this injury.
Nobody knows how he´s coming backand i didnt say he was gonna tear up the league. What i said is that he had some motivating factors that might help him out. If he gets hurt again that wont matter. I really dont think anyone here needed to be told by Infinity that players that come out of the DL dont usually come out bangingYour error KULCAT is that you cannot simply assume that he will decline because there is nothing in his history to suggest this.
I really dont get you. If we already stablished that he´s not the same player he was before the injury that would make 99 and 00 his peaks years and if wont get to those levels again then his career is in decline. I think your error is that you believe im stating that he´s gonna start hitting .220 now and i never said that. Just that i wouldnt be surprised if in subsequent years his average starts dipping slowly into the .290-.280 range. Thats is not a violent decline but its still declining[/quote]
You keep saying that Nomar is in decline. You have also said a number of times that he has been in decline "THE PAST FEW YEARS".
That is simply not true.
I have put forward the stats. The facts are that his roto value INCREASED from 2002 to 2003.
You have put forward no evidence or facts to support your position that he has declined the past two years.
I will not respond to you anymore unless you put up some evidence, any evidence at all, that he has started to DECLINE THE PAST FEW YEARS.