Erboes wrote:Although I love to talk a walk in the land of emotion from time to time, I have to resist doing so now.
Not even entirely sure what that psuedo-intellectual babble is supposed to mean.
Erboes wrote:Contraras's ERA against Boston: 18.00
Contraras's WHIP against Boston: 3.10
Contrasas's ERA against everyone else: 3.20
Contraras's WHIP against everyone else:1.07
I encourage you to look up the box scores for, well, all of those non-Boston appearances, then report back to me when you find one solid one against a team anyone considers a major offensive threat that wasn't just playing out the season, a team that wasn't injury riddled, or a team that was not historically bad.
The facts those statistics will "bear out" will in fact prove.........
Contreras against teams that will ever amount to anything = atrocious
Contreras against the beaten down, mediocre and terrible = well above average
Erboes wrote:There are two facts here. One, you're not dealing in facts. Two, he's only pitched 82 innings total in the majors, and making any conclusions from it is a bit premature.
There are actually three facts here - you're overlooking the FACT that Contreras has yet to look anything more than mediocre, the fact that his numbers are, in fact, somewhat inflated by the mop-up work he did last year (and his starts against terrible teams), the FACT that every major sports network has thoroughly documented how he tips his pitches to the point where I can call them while half drunk in a bar, and the FACT that you've ignored intangibles when digging up statistical information to try and back your doomed case.
Actually, there's a 4th fact. He qualifies for AARP benefits due to his advanced age.
Erboes wrote: The guy is a K an inning starting pitcher, and that should be enough to hold onto him at least a bit longer. Even if he can only pitch against weak hitters (the facts don't bare that out by the way) then only start him against weak hitting teams, but for the love that is all good in this game, don't cut him.
The guy has racked up a K an inning - against the likes of Detroit, Cincy, Toronto, etc. and out of the pen in games that were decided well before he entered them and/or where starting positional players had been replaced. Many also came after September 1st, meaning he faced a ton of batters with little or no big league experience. Calling him a "K an inning starting pitcher" is as premature as it is incorrect.
Contreras might be the most overrated AND overaged "prospect" in recent memory.