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Postby Zito is God » Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:16 pm

Whoa, I missed Riley on that list, definetly Riley, Valverde might take over the Closer position soon, Koch can still be a good closer, and myers will be good enough to win around 12 games.
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Postby NZF » Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:48 pm

JOEG wrote:No way you can wait 2-3 more quality starts to grab this guy!!!!!! Thats a completely stupid thing to suggest....


I disagree.

His career stats before this game 4.57 ERA 1.48 WHIP
9 WINS 15 LOSSES


Has always had a heap of ability I know but I would not be convinced this guy has fully turned the corner until I see another couple of quality starts.

Sure if you have room on your roster or SP's that aren't as good then by all means grab him now. I haven't so I wait. If that means I miss him then so be it.

If you grabbed every guy that pitchers 1 great game, in the past week you would now have Chris Saenz, Waechter and Sergio Mitre on your roster and Bud Smith in your Keeper league.
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Postby wannabthechamp » Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:53 pm

I'm a little confused as to why Riley recieved so much hype and people were saying "GRAB HIM NOW!" but not that's not the case with Perez. :-o

Anyways, I dropped Miguel Batista for Perez and I'm pretty confident that Oliver is going to have a good season. ;-D
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Postby JOEG » Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:57 pm

(If you grabbed every guy that pitchers 1 great game, in the past week you would now have Chris Saenz, Waechter and Sergio Mitre on your roster and Bud Smith in your Keeper league.]

Perez - CG - shutout - 10 K's - huge prospect for years

Saenz - 6 innings
Waecter - 6 innings
Mitre - 6 innings

there is a difference in the magnitude of these preformances to a great degree
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Postby Madison » Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:53 am

I dropped Loshe for him about an hour ago. Not a big loss if he doesn't perform well. Plus his next start is against the Brewers and that doesn't scare me too much. B-)
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Postby hybrid » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:39 am

only 2 pages, it was a complete 10 strike out game. but yet riley gets 10 pages....sad. i hope this keeps going till he pitches again so we can get 10 pages
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Postby LBJackal » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:43 am

Riley is just getting his shot at the majors, and his first 2 starts were awesome. Perez has been talked about for 2 years now. I'm sure if he were a rookie doing what he's doing people would be talking about him as much as Riley. And Pittsburgh's run support isn't exactly top-notch, either.
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Postby hybrid » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:51 am

LBJackal wrote:Riley is just getting his shot at the majors, and his first 2 starts were awesome. Perez has been talked about for 2 years now. I'm sure if he were a rookie doing what he's doing people would be talking about him as much as Riley. And Pittsburgh's run support isn't exactly top-notch, either.


Oliver has better stuff and is younger. Perez's potential to me is much better.

edited: i can see what your saying though, it's sad though that just cause riley is a new name though he would get more attention. i'm sure a lot of the new people in fantasy baseball or people in shallow leagues don't know who perez is that well either.
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Postby sinicalypse » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:51 pm

olly perez has some stuff, it's just whether he really buckles down and becomes a good pitcher. i think someday he'll be pretty good, the crapshoot is whether or not its this year.

near the end of 2002, maybe august or september, he had a good stretch where he had a 3.something ERA and a bunch of Ks, kind of like now. he ended up giving up runs in heaps and his era was 5.something.

what's encouraging this year is that his good start is in april, low BB numbers, and the reds arent exactly chopped liver in terms of an offensive opponent. even someone like sean casey can single or double you to death, adam dunn's hot, and he managed cincinnati twice in a row.

there was this pitcher last year who began a bigtime run after handling cincinnati twice in a row, would you believe that the pitcher i speak of is the mighty dontrelle willis?
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Postby DK » Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:48 pm

Haven't I called this kid out forever? I've seen the guy pitch. He's got all the tools. I've liked his potential since I first heard of him. He's started to control his ability, harness his talent. I would not be surprised to see him break out, even on the lowly Pirates.

What's Pittsburgh's ballfield like? Favors hitters or pitchers?
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