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Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:16 pm

I think he still does have a chance at 20 again this year. Even if his era isnt in the low 2's, hes got tons of run support.
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Postby GSes » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:20 pm

1 CG shutout dosent convince me.

Even RJ's CG didnt make me 100% sure he was back.

If Loaza keeps it up to the All star break

I will give him the credit he deserves
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Postby la dodgers » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:24 pm

nycyankees wrote:i still will vote last year was a fluke. his ERA is around 6.


actually his era is 3 and change right now
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Postby DaQ » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:28 pm

FLUKE
I took him after he started 3-0 in 2001 and he sucked the rest of hte year. It killed my team because you are only allowed 2 FA transactions a year and no one wanted to trade. Now I have a bad feeling about him.
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Postby thetongueofire » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:29 pm

i dont think that Loiza is a fluke but he prolly wont have the Cy Young quality season he had last year

nycyankees wrote:i still will vote last year was a fluke. his ERA is around 6. Do you know he reminds me a lot of, D. Lowe. A great 2002 and then down hill from year, the only difference is loaiza does not have the redsox lineup so he will not pull off 15 wins this year. Actually, now that i look, Loaiza (03) and Lowe's (02) numbers were actually almost the exact same,

Team G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
CHA 34 34 21 9 0 1 0 226.1 196 75 73 17 56 207 2.90 1.11 .233
BOS 32 32 21 8 0 1 1 219.2 166 65 63 12 48 127 2.58 0.97 .211


as for nycyankees analysis, even though their numbers look similar, they are really different in terms of their pitching styles and their stuff, so saying that they will follow the same career path doesnt make much sense.... and even though Derek Lowe prolly wont reach his 02 numbers, we should find out this year that Derek Lowe's career is not exactly going "downhill"
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Postby blankman » Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:12 pm

I'm still on the FLUKE side
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Postby Madison » Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:53 pm

I love how a few people are trying to play up the 3-0 start. Remember that he was 2-0 with an era of 6 ok. That's a lot of run support. Yes, he had a very nice game today, but it is a long season so we will just have to wait until it's over to see how he ends up.

Notice that I did say he had a very nice game today, and I haven't said a word during the first 2 crappy starts. Just to even further show that I don't "hate" the guy. Just not a believer in him this season. ;-)
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Postby Zito is God » Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:02 pm

His performance today is killing you, isn't it?


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