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Esteban Loaiza, still a fluke?

Postby #1 » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:36 pm

He has 3 wins in 3 starts. Starting strong, so was last year a fluke, or is he the real deal?
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Postby jayman » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:42 pm

I don't think he's a fluke, but I don't think he's a top tier yet. Top tier pitchers, IMO, do it year in year out (unless injured). Low era, whip, wins, some have k's.

So, he's not Schilling, Pedro, Halladay, but he's very good. Another good year and he'll be top tier.
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Postby kentx12 » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:43 pm

I am starting to ask myself that same question. He has generally been really good in his carrear in April so if he can carry this streak into March I will be kicking myself for not selecting him in any of my drafts after he fell to the late rounds.
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Postby Zito is God » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:44 pm

Wait till inner league play, then we'll see how his stats fair.
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Postby nycyankees » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:44 pm

i still will vote last year was a fluke. his ERA is around 6. Do you know he reminds me a lot of, D. Lowe. A great 2002 and then down hill from year, the only difference is loaiza does not have the redsox lineup so he will not pull off 15 wins this year. Actually, now that i look, Loaiza (03) and Lowe's (02) numbers were actually almost the exact same,

Team G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
CHA 34 34 21 9 0 1 0 226.1 196 75 73 17 56 207 2.90 1.11 .233
BOS 32 32 21 8 0 1 1 219.2 166 65 63 12 48 127 2.58 0.97 .211
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Postby Zito is God » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:47 pm

Nice comparison, although it came from a yankees fan. :-D
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Postby jojo » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:49 pm

nycyankees wrote:i still will vote last year was a fluke. his ERA is around 6. Do you know he reminds me a lot of, D. Lowe. A great 2002 and then down hill from year, the only difference is loaiza does not have the redsox lineup so he will not pull off 15 wins this year. Actually, now that i look, Loaiza (03) and Lowe's (02) numbers were actually almost the exact same,

Team G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
CHA 34 34 21 9 0 1 0 226.1 196 75 73 17 56 207 2.90 1.11 .233
BOS 32 32 21 8 0 1 1 219.2 166 65 63 12 48 127 2.58 0.97 .211


Another difference is he's more of a strikeout pitcher than Lowe, who relies on his defense, and Loaiza's ERA is 3.50, not 6.
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Postby jojo » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:50 pm

Zito is God wrote:Wait till inner league play, then we'll see how his stats fair.


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Postby nycyankees » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:53 pm

that was his era before today, i guess a CGSO might help a little
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Postby LBJackal » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:58 pm

Loazi's on his way to another 20 win season..........all the naysayers will see. And don't think I won't remember who you are. It's basically everybody except me anyways........ :-D
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