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Postby wrveres » Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:17 am

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Wow..... where did all the love go

Though I will be the first to admit that comparing stats with players from different era's is fruitless, I do find it one heck of a lot easier to compare them when they are separated by 10-20 years vs. 110-120 years.
And he only quit pitching 10 years ago. Not 110. LMAO [color=red]Thats alot of complete games for that time LMAO


Anyways, look at Walter Johnson from 1910 to 1919 (10 season span, even harder to do). Averaged 26.5W/season (lead majors twice), 222K/season (lead majors 6 times) and his highest ERA in that span was 2.21, the rest all between 1.15 and 1.90 (lead the majors 4 times). Also lead the majors in CG and Shutouts 3 times each in that span.


I give up.... Your right... Nolan Ryan was a piece of crap. I'm going to find a new Favorite Player...I think I'll take Jose Canseco... Posterboy for "How Steroids destroyed my Career". Now we can discuss HR/AB between 1900-1910 vs. 1980's

Ready..here we go.

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Postby wrveres » Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:23 pm

;-D
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Postby Bennyy22 » Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:28 pm

wrveres wrote:;-D


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Postby timkell » Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:47 pm

Hey wrveres, Ryan is a great favorite player to have. Interesting personality, moments of absolute untouchability, etc. But favorite does not mean best player.

There are so many better pitchers in the history of baseball. The guy just walked way too many people.

Here's a good article by Rob Neyer about why Ryan is not one of the top 10 pitchers ever. There's nothing wrong with being top 50.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/neyer_rob/1383697.html

How about this 11 year run by Steve Carlton? They kill Ryan's.

YEAR W L G SH IP H R ER SO BB ERA
1972 27 10 41 8 346 257 84 76 310 87 1.98
1973 13 20 40 3 293 293 146 127 223 113 3.9
1974 16 13 39 1 291 249 118 104 240 136 3.22
1975 15 14 37 3 255 217 116 101 192 104 3.56
1976 20 7 35 2 253 224 94 88 195 72 3.13
1977 23 10 36 2 283 229 99 83 198 89 2.64
1978 16 13 34 3 247 228 91 78 161 63 2.84
1979 18 11 35 4 251 202 112 101 213 89 3.62
1980 24 9 38 3 304 243 87 79 286 90 2.34
1981 13 4 24 1 190 152 59 51 179 62 2.42
1982 23 11 38 6 295.2 253 114 102 286 86 3.1
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Postby wrveres » Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:20 am

;-D
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It was such an excellent post Benny that I didn't want it to get buried 'cus of me. Tomorrow I will post my link to the "Jose Canseco" website i am setting up. Go Steroid's ;-D
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Postby rjforlife » Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:51 am

from the past to present and into future it will always be rj for me (betcha didnt know that)

as a lefthander, I would probably piss my pants and run away if i ever had to get into that box with the big unit. the most hideous, intimidating, and awesome pitcher that ever lived.

if i had to take an old guy it would be reggie jackson. can you spell C-L-U-T-C-H?
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Postby DGroundhog » Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:02 am

Alomar, for the 'Loogie' incident.
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Postby Benny22 » Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:08 am

HEY! Don't make fun of the 'Loogie' incident.

I have family and friends involved in the 'Loogie' incident and I don't appreciate that crap at all.
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Postby timkell » Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:52 am

All time: Rickey Henderson. So cocky, yet he could back it up. He could do it all, and he was so fun to watch, even when playing defense.

Current: Hmm. Tough one. Torii Hunter. I wish he was catching fly balls at Yankee Stadium!

Honorable mention: David Cone. I love this guy
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Postby Danks81 » Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:03 am

Benny22 wrote:HEY! Don't make fun of the 'Loogie' incident.

I have family and friends involved in the 'Loogie' incident and I don't appreciate that crap at all.


Hey I think I saw your family and friends at my support group for the Loogie incident.
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