How baseball have been stained

[ponson's poor toilet]

If it is a legal substance, I don't care. It's their body, they're grown men and they can do what they want. If it is an illegal substance than I do care for several reasons:

1. Any achievements made by the player are tainted and that's bad for baseball as a whole.

2. Our youth and especially our young athletes see achievement via illegal substances and may decide this is the only way they can compete.

3. Baseball is a business and player's peformance transfers to revenue. If player A uses a banned substance and succeeds, player B now has the added pressure to break the law in order to maintain value.

Absolutely... nailed it right on the head

steroids can be really harmful cos there's always a tradeoff when they divert your body's resources to making it grow.. so it messes up many other basic processes of the body. one of the main side effects are to the liver which works harder to eliminate poisonous substances and toxins produced by steroids. and thats how the liver fails.

btw- did anyone know that the steroids taken by athletes are derivatives of Testosterone and Andro is actually a group of steroids which really resemble Testosterone in their structure.

anyways heres an interesting piece of info- one of the most common side effects of steroids is known as "bitch tits"... LoL... i think you can pretty much guess what that means... it happens when steroids are converted into ESTROGEN during their metabolism by the body.

so to anyone whos taking 'roids- have fun !!!

Bitch tits are everyone's biggest fear but they're pretty easily averted by taking an anti-E while on a hormone with estrogenic side effects.

[BabyBoomer]

anyways heres an interesting piece of info- one of the most common side effects of steroids is known as "bitch tits"... LoL... i think you can pretty much guess what that means... it happens when steroids are converted into ESTROGEN during their metabolism by the body.

In the imortal words of a kid in the simpson

HA HA

[AcidRock23]

I don't think that it really works to draw a line between 'legal' and 'illegal' substances. Once you limit what you can take to the stuff on a list, you encourage chemists to add a molecule here and there to make something that does the same thing w/o being the thing on the list. Guys making performance enhancing stuff are as good at chemistry as guys who are trying to catch them.

If baseball can dig up a bunch of old blood and say 'we are not going to test this group of samples because we are scared of the union', there is little point in trying to catch a guy here or there who for whatever putzy reasons, were tested and caught unlike the guys who snuck by.

The Sheffield offer to get tested was nice but if any of them really gave a rat's ass what anyone thought, they'd already be giving up their blood and they'd tell the union to go to hell for interfering w/ their ability to 'pump up' their value in the market for endorsements, etc.

In a few hundred years, someone will note that whatever statutes or contracts had 'protected' the players will have lapsed and some enterprising historian will dig up some bones and people will know what really happened.

Maybe if the fans at the All-Star game chant 'the players' union sucks' during the entire game, it would get their attention but the whole thing is a big sham. We 'like' players and the players like money. The game is fun but the players aren't ever going to be as amazing as they were a long time ago. Because we will always be able to say 'he did well, but he was probably on 'roids. Ted Williams and Lou Gehrig were not on anything. THOSE were baseball PLAYERS'.

And, after all, there's the AMAZING story of Dock Ellis, not quite the same as 'roids but well, an interesting moment in time...:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_history3.shtml