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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby brooklynborn82 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:53 pm

OPS difference helps Carpenter.
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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby S27 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:59 pm

I would hang onto Carpenter.


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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:02 pm

brooklynborn82 wrote:OPS difference helps Carpenter.

It did last year, but projections have them close in OPS
Carpenters OPS will drop, because he won't have a .359 babip again
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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby brooklynborn82 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:26 pm

I don't know. Everyone has Carp's OPS regressing thus year, going from .849 to around d .817. Even if it is .817, still better than the projections I've seen for Gordon, who might be topping out at .780ish.
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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:46 am

.817 was the high, if you average Steamer, Fans, Oliver, Zips
Carp .793
Gordon .783
pretty close
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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby MadDog36 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:00 am

HOOTIE wrote:.817 was the high, if you average Steamer, Fans, Oliver, Zips
Carp .793
Gordon .783
pretty close

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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:37 pm

MadDog36 wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:.817 was the high, if you average Steamer, Fans, Oliver, Zips
Carp .793
Gordon .783
pretty close

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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby Irish Drunk » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:14 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:Carpenter and it is not even close.


How is it not close?
Gordons projections are about the same as last years numbers.
Should be around 20 hrs 80 rbis.
Carpenter is in for a regression. Still good, but more like .290 90-100 runs.
Stat wise they are close. The only reason i might give Carpenter the edge, is a 4 round differnce.

Here's how its not close - Carpenter qualifies at 2B/3B and Gordon is an OF. A 20-80-90 OF is solid - a 10-75-90 2B is elite.
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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby BUCCOFAN » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:58 pm

I like Carpenter here due to the position flexibility, HOWEVER Gordon could see an uptic in stats this year hitting in the 5 hole.

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Re: Carpenter for A. Gordon trade? WHIR

Postby brooklynborn82 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:47 pm

Completely agree that the position flexibility is a huge deal here. If you take a look at the 2B player pool, everyone there is a question mark for some reason or another (age, injury, consistency, lineup). Carp as a 2B in the 14th is invaluable. If I was using him as a 3B, that's where his value would diminish. But I don't plan on using him at 3B, so that's not a concern.

The thing that I keep coming back to though, is that Gordon can be a potential 5 cat. contributor in the 10th. Just for perspective on this league, I drafted Josh Reddick in the 7th round last year. The player pool is smaller due to the keepers. There won't be any potential 5 cat contributors in the OF by the time I get to the 10th. Trout, Stanton, Gomez, Harper, Starling Marte, Wil Myers, and Werth, are all keepers. Only thing that keeps coming back to me.
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