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Postby CubanMissles » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:58 pm

Alright heres what I got.

I'd be receiving Choo and giving up JZimmermann. I think that it is a solid deal given Zimmermann's low K-rate and struggles near the end of last year. However, my question is...would it be smarter to keep JZimm and hope AJax or Jennings finally break out? Or trade one of my lower SP for someone like granderson, who struggled last year but has had big years?

Also, are there any other CF's I should be targeting?

Here is my roster...
C- Wilin Rosario
1B- Paul Goldschmidt
2B- Jason Kipnis
3B- Ryan Zimmerman
SS- Hanley Ramirez
LF- Starling Marte
CF- Austin Jackson
RF- Justin Upton
DH- Billy Butler

BN- Moustakas
BN- Franklin
BN- Jennings
BN- Taveras

SP- Mat Latos
SP- Homer Bailey
SP- Jordan Zimmermann
SP- Jon Lester
SP- Ervin Santana
RP- Aroldis Chapman
BN- Kuroda
BN- Lincecum
BN- Niese
BN- T. Wood
BN- Miley
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Re: JZimm and Choo

Postby MaudDib » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:21 am

I think I would stick with Jackson. Not sure I see him getting much better but I also don't think he is that far behind Choo. Choo gets slightly more HR and SB but not by enough to make much of a difference. Everything else is pretty equal.

The other thing to worry about with Choo, is that he could sign somewhere and become a corner OF putting you in this situation again next year.
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Re: JZimm and Choo

Postby Element » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:23 pm

In a nutshell I like the trade for you. However, I do like Austin Jackson a lot also. With Kinsler in Detroit now, Jackson moves into more of a run producing role, which is better suited for him, IMO. His run totals should fall off, but expect some more RBI. I like him as a bounceback player. I would also explore the possibility of adding Granderson.
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Re: JZimm and Choo

Postby Donnie740 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:36 pm

Have to laugh at the sudden infatuation so many seem to have with Choo. Is it because he was finally on a hotshot team that received some media hype last year? Because his 2013 season was no better that what he'd done in 2009 or 2010 or 2012.

Choo's going to be a 32yr old OF next year. His ceiling is 18 to 20HR with 18 to 20 SBs with a .280 to .290 AVG. If anything, his best days are behind him. Just draft Shane Victorino 6 or 7 rounds later and you'll get pretty much the same production as Choo.

I realize SP is very plentiful, but DO NOT deal a top 15 SP who's just coming into his prime years for a guy like Choo.
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Re: JZimm and Choo

Postby JasonisFreng » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:06 am

Donnie740 wrote:Have to laugh at the sudden infatuation so many seem to have with Choo. Is it because he was finally on a hotshot team that received some media hype last year? Because his 2013 season was no better that what he'd done in 2009 or 2010 or 2012.

Choo's going to be a 32yr old OF next year. His ceiling is 18 to 20HR with 18 to 20 SBs with a .280 to .290 AVG. If anything, his best days are behind him. Just draft Shane Victorino 6 or 7 rounds later and you'll get pretty much the same production as Choo.

I realize SP is very plentiful, but DO NOT deal a top 15 SP who's just coming into his prime years for a guy like Choo.


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Re: JZimm and Choo

Postby Donnie740 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:52 pm

Really? Curious to know what 15 SPs you'd put ahead of JZimm in a keeper league. Even more curious to know where you'd actually rank him among SPs - - top 20? Top 30? Does he make your top 40?
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Re: JZimm and Choo

Postby JasonisFreng » Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:04 pm

Donnie740 wrote:Really? Curious to know what 15 SPs you'd put ahead of JZimm in a keeper league. Even more curious to know where you'd actually rank him among SPs - - top 20? Top 30? Does he make your top 40?

Here they are in a rough general order...

Kershaw Darvish Strasburg Felix Scherzer Price Bumgarner Wainwright Fernandez Lee Grienke Hamels Sale Verlander Bailey Anibal Gio Minor Latos Teheran Miller Moore Wacha Cain Cole

That's 25 so I think I would rank him in my top 30.
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Re: JZimm and Choo

Postby MadDog36 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:53 am

I see no reason to make a lateral move. Your OF is solid, your team is just that solid. You don't have an super-elites but you have a team of solid 20/20 types and guys that won't kill you. I say keep your team as is and drive it to a contending slot in your league. If anything I'd try to acquire a bigger bat for your UTL/DH slot by offering up Butler+Jennings. Any guys like BJ Upton in FA you could stash on your bench for free?
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