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Postby kellythemick » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:05 pm

If it's obvious it's probably true.
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Postby soxfan364 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:59 pm

Wow a bit surprised since he's only 36.
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Postby kab21 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:13 pm

soxfan364 wrote:Wow a bit surprised since he's only 36.


36 is fairly old in baseball and it was incredibly obvious that he wasn't going to be an above average pitcher again. after making well over 100M I'm not sure I would see the point in enduring more rehab and potentially further injuring his shoulder again. Brad Radke also retired after wrecking his shoulder instead of going through surgery and rehab.

It will be an interesting HOF debate. He seems to fall between Pedro (no doubter) and Schilling (fringy) as two other guys that don't have the career length (compilation stats) but are getting HOF consideration currently.
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Re: Roy Halladay

Postby mweir145 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:56 pm

Greatest Blue Jay of all time and the best pitcher of his era. It was a privilege watching him pitch every 5th day over those years. Made watching baseball fun in a way that hasn't quite been duplicated by anybody since (and likely never will be).

Amazing to think that only two years ago at this time he was the best pitcher in the game. Like everything else in life, such greatness is impermanent. Yet another reminder to value the LeBron James' and Mike Trouts of the world while you can because before you know it they'll be gone.

I also hesitate to make any assumptions about a Hall of Fame that is currently keeping the best hitter and pitcher in the history of baseball out of it, but Halladay should and most likely will be in there down the road. He deserves it.
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Re: Roy Halladay

Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:42 pm

Happy trails Roy. Here's hoping that you join Hentgen on the Jays coaching staff. These guys could learn from your hard work.

He is a HOF no-doubter. Best pitcher for a decade, all those complete games and no suggestion of peds.
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Re: Roy Halladay

Postby bigh0rt » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:07 pm

mweir145 wrote:Made watching baseball fun in a way that hasn't quite been duplicated by anybody since (and likely never will be).

For sure not. Maybe the most boring good pitcher of the last 20 years.
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Re: Roy Halladay

Postby mweir145 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:14 am

bigh0rt wrote:
mweir145 wrote:Made watching baseball fun in a way that hasn't quite been duplicated by anybody since (and likely never will be).

For sure not. Maybe the most boring good pitcher of the last 20 years.

Sounds like you just didn't like him mowing down those terrible Mets. By that standard, I guess that makes Greg Maddux boring too.

In addition to being the best pitcher of his era, Halladay was also consistently right at the top of the league in pitcher pace. The 2 hour masterpieces that resulted were always quite enjoyable to watch. Of course, maybe you prefer sludging through the starts of the Josh Becketts and Clay Buchholzs of the world. I'm not here to judge.
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Re: Roy Halladay

Postby rjforlife » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:09 am

bigh0rt wrote:
mweir145 wrote:Made watching baseball fun in a way that hasn't quite been duplicated by anybody since (and likely never will be).

For sure not. Maybe the most boring good pitcher of the last 20 years.



Halladay was boring. Fact.
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Re: Roy Halladay

Postby mweir145 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:24 pm

rjforlife wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:
mweir145 wrote:Made watching baseball fun in a way that hasn't quite been duplicated by anybody since (and likely never will be).

For sure not. Maybe the most boring good pitcher of the last 20 years.



Halladay was boring. Fact.

To those incapable of appreciating great baseball, I'm sure he was.
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Re: Roy Halladay

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:04 pm

mweir145 wrote:
rjforlife wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:For sure not. Maybe the most boring good pitcher of the last 20 years.



Halladay was boring. Fact.

To those incapable of appreciating great baseball, I'm sure he was.

For those who look at statistics after the fact to determine whether or not something was entertaining, I'm sure he wasn't. I don't use xFIP to determine how fun it is to watch a guy pitch, though. Halladay's xFUN rating was brutal. On par with Steve Trachsel. You want fun, watch Strasburg pitch. Or the first half of Ubaldo Jimenez's big half-season. Or Pedro Martinez in his heyday. Halladay was a snooze-fest, although I'm sure up in the great white north that qualifies for Friday night entertainment. B-)
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