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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby Element » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:05 pm

ayebatter wrote:
GiantsFan14 wrote:Looks like Kershaw and Puig were throwing punches and Mattingly threw a coach to the ground. Suspensions?


I'm sure Kershaw/Puig suspensions are on your wish list as a Mattingly suspension is on ours. ;-)


This. JP Howell and Ronald Belisario are definitely getting suspensions. They came out of the pen with some bad intentions. Kennedy should receive a *pinkie to mouth* one million game suspension.
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby lastingsgriller » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:43 pm

ayebatter wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:
I don't know about that.


I'm not surprised


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ayebatter wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:
it only made sense to throw at Greinke there. .


Explain your reasoning


IPK felt the Puig shot was unintentional, but then Greinke came back with a clearly intentional shot on Montero. IPK retaliated because he thought Greinke doinked Montero without reason.


ayebatter wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:
The problem was the location.


No the problem was the intention.


Its baseball, it happens. IPK hopes Greinke will think twice now about going after a DBack.

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lastingsgriller wrote:
make you point


No that wasn't making a point it was a 22 year olds idea of always having to have the last word.


Kennedy is like 27 or 28. I know that's a young whipper snapper to you, but reletive to other baseball players, thats something of a veteran.
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby ayebatter » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:02 pm

lastingsgriller wrote:
IPK hopes Greinke will think twice now about going after a DBack.




Sound reasoning strikes in the heart of the Cafe again. :-°
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby lastingsgriller » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:08 pm

ayebatter wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:
IPK hopes Greinke will think twice now about going after a DBack.




Sound reasoning strikes in the heart of the Cafe again. :-°



Isn't the point of intentionally hitting someone to remind them that there are consequenses?
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby ayebatter » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:20 pm

lastingsgriller wrote:
ayebatter wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:
IPK hopes Greinke will think twice now about going after a DBack.




Sound reasoning strikes in the heart of the Cafe again. :-°



Isn't the point of intentionally hitting someone to remind them that there are consequenses?



So Greinke should have popped one in Montero's ear instead of plinking him in the back, because as you say there are consequences and then there are consequences.
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby thedude » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:32 pm

ayebatter wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:
IPK hopes Greinke will think twice now about going after a DBack.




Sound reasoning strikes in the heart of the Cafe again. :-°


I am not saying its right, but isn't one of the reasons people dislike the DH is because the pitchers never have to face the consequences of plunking a batter in AL? Now Montero was hit without justification ( Puig was presumably hit unintentionally), so Grienke should have expected a response.

Hitting batters is a part of the game. So long as it is "done the right way" (i.e. not high and inside). Compare what happened in LA to Tampa and Boston:

1) Joyce hits a homer off Lackey and watches it for a while
2) Joyce hits a long foul off Lackey and watches it again, this time gesturing in disappointment when it lands very foul.
3) Lackey hits Joyce. Benches empty and Salty shoves Joyce. No ejections.

4) Maddon complains about Lackey following the game.
5) The next game. Roberto Hernandez hits Pedroia.

There were be no ejections/suspensions. No ejections or suspensions. These type of things happen.

Kennedy should be expected to plunk a batter after Montero was hit. Of course, Kennedy should never have came high and inside.
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby lastingsgriller » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:39 pm

ayebatter wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:
ayebatter wrote:

Sound reasoning strikes in the heart of the Cafe again. :-°



Isn't the point of intentionally hitting someone to remind them that there are consequenses?



So Greinke should have popped one in Montero's ear instead of plinking him in the back, because as you say there are consequences and then there are consequences.



No. i never think a pitch should ever be thrown intentionally near the head. But, I have no problem with drilling someone in the lower back.
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby Mookie4ever » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:46 pm

Kennedy is dangerously crazy. Throwing at heads is going to get somebody killed. Kennedy should get a long suspension.

The managers are supposed to get these things under control but these guys were actually out there throwing haymakers. Both should be suspended.
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby thedude » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:51 pm

Also, where were the warnings after the first batters were hit? Could the umps have controlled this better?
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Re: Dodgers/Diamondbacks fight. Greinke/Kennedy

Postby wrveres » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:02 pm

thedude wrote:Also, where were the warnings after the first batters were hit? Could the umps have controlled this better?
there actually were warnings given after Montero got plunked. Thats why Gibson and Kennedy were immediately ejected after Grienke got plunked.

Mark McGwire should get suspended too. after he got in the face and was puling on Gibsons jersey, he then went after Matt Williams. after that broke up, you see him go into the pile and start tossing people back. Also i think it was JP Howell that tossed the assistant hitting coach into the railing. He should get a suspension too.

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