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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby Norby » Fri May 31, 2013 12:20 am

HighHeater wrote:One of the most impressive debuts I have saw in some time.... wow... ;-D


Shhh. He's not supposed to be useful this year. ;)
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby J35J » Fri May 31, 2013 9:00 am

Unfortunately watchng the Royals game....figured I'd chart and scout Wacha while I was at it because nothing else is worth watching.

He throws straight overhand which means he doesn't have a ton of movement on the fastball. FB is anywhere between 91-96 so far..sitting around 92-94. The changeup is plus, sitting between 82-86. His command has been perfect tonight with both pitches, though this 4th inning he's started leaving his fastball up more. Even though his fastball is straight the Royals have yet to have a good swing against it because they respect the changeup so much since he can throw it for strikes and throws it for strikes low in the zone. There hasn't been a single ball hit hard yet against him and he's made most of them just look silly. He threw his first curveball in the 4th at 76 but it was high so there isn't much to tell from that.

1st inning - 11pitches/9strikes/2balls - 7fastballs/4changeups
FB-92-K
FB-96-B
FB-93-K
CH-85-B
CH-83-K
--
FB-93-K
FB-95-K
CH-85-K
--
FB-93-K
CH-85-K
FB-96-K

2nd Inning - 15pitches/11strikes/4balls - 10fastballs/5changeups
FB-92-B
FB-93-K
FB-93-B
FB-92-K
--
FB-94-B
FB-92-K
FB-93-K
FB-96-K
CH-86-K
--
FB-93-K
CH-86-K
CH-86-B
CH-86-B
FB-94-K
CH-85-K

3rd Inning - 9pitches/8strikes/1ball - 7fastballs/2changeups
FB-92-K
CH-82-K
--
FB-93-K
CH-84-K
FB-95-K
--
FB-91-K
FB-94-K
FB-94-K
FB-95-K

4th Inning - 18pitches/12strikes/6balls - 10fastballs/7changeups/1curveball
FB-93-B
CH-84-K
FB-93-B
FB-92-K
FB-94-K
CH-84-K
--
Cv-76-B
FB-91-K
CH-84-B
FB-94-K
FB-95-K
FB-94-K
FB-92-K
--
CH-83-B
CH-82-K
FB-92-K
CH-86-B
CH-85-K


To sum up, his command with his fastball and change have been very good. Even though his fastball is a little straight, everyone respects the plus change so they are off balance on both pitches. He works fast and until the 4th if he missed at all it was down....we'll see how the 5th shapes up.

5th inning

The 5th inning he's lost some giddy up on the FB, don't know if it's just the adrenaline wearing off or what but he hit 93 once but otherwise was 90-92 with his fastball. A couple hard hit balls against that fastball in this inning as well. Also from the stretch he left a changeup high for what seems like the first time and it got hit as well. Other than that he maintained his poise and got out of just a little trouble in the 5th with that plus changeup. He also threw what looked like his first cutter at 90mph and there was something straight at 89mph too that I don't know if it was just a slow fastball or a hard change. I also saw a fast curve or slower slider at 82mph that wasn't a strike and wasn't anything special.

5th inning - 16pitches/10strikes/6balls - 8fastballs/6changeups/1cutter/1slider
Cutter-90-B
FB?-89-K
CH-83-K
--
FB-93-K
FB-91-B
FB-92-K
--
FB-91-B
Slider?-82-B
FB-91-K
--
FB-91-K
CH-84-B
CH-85-K
--
FB-90-K
CH-85-K
CH-85-B
CH-85-K

6th inning

He was just joking with the FB...it's back up to 93-95 and his command was solid again. He threw another curveball and this one was for a taken strike, it was just average looking though.

6th inning - 15pitches/11strikes/4balls - 10fastballs/4changeups/1curveball
FB-91-K
FB-91-K
FB-93-K
CH-85-K
--
FB-93-K
Curve-77-K
FB-95-B
CH-86-K
FB-95-K
CH-85-B
CH-85-B
FB-94-K
--
FB-93-B
FB-93-K
FB-93-K

7th inning

He's just attacking the zone, I'm impressed with that. I also love his changeup. He threw 1 more curveball this inning and it's still average and more of just a showme type of pitch. This may be his last inning as he's over 90 pitches now.

7th inning - 9pitches/7strikes/2balls - 5fastballs/3changeups/1curveball
Curve-73-B
FB-90-K
CH-83-K
CH-86-B
CH-84-K
FB-94-K
--
FB-92-K
--
FB-92-K
FB-93-K



J35J wrote:
wrveres wrote:
BChinly wrote:Wacha > Gausman

its the royals.


Yes, do very much keep in mind this is the Royals...they couldn't hit their way out of a wet paper sack over the last 2-3 weeks. With that said, Wacha has still been impressive and wouldn't have given any team time enough to take pitches with how much he's pounding the zone and keeping guys off balance...though maybe another team would have a couple more hits off him tonight, who knows.



J35J wrote:Wacha does need a 3rd pitch, he's got that curveball that is just average and they say he'll throw a cutter and/or a slider but he really didn't throw it tonight, nor did he need to though. If that change is off at all, all he's left with is a straight fastball so I'd imagine he'll have some rough nights against better offenses...he was good tonight though.
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby footballisbetter.com » Fri May 31, 2013 6:35 pm

Wacha or Gausman for this season? Who's better?
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby kimchi_chigae » Fri May 31, 2013 8:05 pm

footballisbetter.com wrote:Wacha or Gausman for this season? Who's better?


Wacha. Looks a lot more polished. Easier division.
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby J35J » Fri May 31, 2013 8:45 pm

kimchi_chigae wrote:
footballisbetter.com wrote:Wacha or Gausman for this season? Who's better?


Wacha. Looks a lot more polished. Easier division.


Yup, anytime it's relatively close I'd go with the guy pitching in the NL. Also, you can't deny the success of young pitchers in the Cardinals system and it's kinda the opposite with the Orioles system.
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby Element » Fri May 31, 2013 10:05 pm

I'll take the guy that is being received by Yadi.

I like Wacha's release point too. He gets on top of the ball and while (as J mentioned) there isn't a ton of lateral movement he gets good sink and creates a unique angle for hitters. I like him quite a bit
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby BChinly » Fri May 31, 2013 11:25 pm

Element wrote:I'll take the guy that is being received by Yadi.

I like Wacha's release point too. He gets on top of the ball and while (as J mentioned) there isn't a ton of lateral movement he gets good sink and creates a unique angle for hitters. I like him quite a bit


Yadi has always liked Wacha as a pitcher too. One of the few to say Wacha was ready after spring training
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby HighHeater » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:58 pm

I don't think the movement on his FB really is a negative at all.... he's a tall pitcher and comes down on a steep plane to the hitter much like Latos. He looks extremely impressive to me, and he looks to have a plus plus change up.
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby Element » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:43 pm

HighHeater wrote:I don't think the movement on his FB really is a negative at all.... he's a tall pitcher and comes down on a steep plane to the hitter much like Latos. He looks extremely impressive to me, and he looks to have a plus plus change up.


Correct. If anything it gives hitters a unique release point to try to pick up. I could see where he could get in trouble if he fails to get the ball down though.
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Re: Michael Wacha. Cardinals pitching prospect

Postby kimchi_chigae » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:24 am

How do you guys feel about the Ari matchup?
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