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Postby baegames » Thu May 16, 2013 1:28 pm

Trade offer. Here are the league rules. Protections are 3+2x years more than current price. So, a $1 Starling Marte can be protected for $6 for one year, $8 each year for 2 years, $10 each for 3 years, etc.; even $44 a year for 20 years if so desired. Additionally, if you have any FAAB money left (start with $100 - signings only Sunday night, $0 bids allowed) at the end of the year (or auction money - start with $260, most people used up their money), you can use this to prepay contracts. Example: You have $30 remaining FAAB and you want to sign Marte to a 5 year contract. So, it's $14 per year ($1 + $3 + $2 x 5); use your $30 to prepay $6 per year (30/5=6), meaning Marte counts $8 ($14-$6) for each of the 5 years against your $260 auction moneys.

Currently an 8 team league (may expand next year). I am currently tied for first after 6 weeks; in the 7th week, I am playing the team with whom I am trading (who is by far the worst team in the league) so I should be in first after this week after everyone has played everyone else.

That's the setup, here is the trade:

I send: I receive:
Evan Gattis ($0) Wilin Rosario ($4)
Manny Machado ($8) Billy Butler ($16)
Starling Marte ($1) Adam Jones ($16)
Jayson Werth ($2) Matt Holliday ($15)
Jose Fernandez ($0) Cliff Lee ($20)
Barry Zito ($1) CC Sabathia ($12)
Andrew Cashner ($0) Jered Weaver ($17)
50 FAAB (to be used for protections)

Is giving up Fernandez, Machado, and Marte worth the upgrade?

Received the following counteroffer:

Marte Jones
Machado Butler
--------- Holliday
Jose Fernandez Cliff Lee
Hyun-Jin Ryu Jered Weaver
Barry Zito CC Sabathia
30 FAAB
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby baegames » Thu May 16, 2013 1:33 pm

If it matters, my other potential keepers - I think I have enough keepers, but I'll be giving up a lot with the $50 to use for signing bonuses:

Jose Altuve ($10)
Carl Crawford ($2)
Adam Eaton ($1)
Brandon Phillips ($13)
Yu Darvish ($16)
Jeff Samardzija ($2)
Paul Goldschmidt ($12)
Alex Gordon ($18)
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Thu May 16, 2013 2:17 pm

I like it, if mostly bc I don't think Gattis, Werth and Zito are very relevant for you long term. Machado, Marte and Fernandez would be but the wealth of talent you receive here hedges this as a yes for me.
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby ridetheline » Thu May 16, 2013 2:22 pm

While the short term it's a good deal for you, I think it prices you out of most any of the keepers you would get in return. I say go for it an focus on a couple guys you really like to try to keep.
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby ridetheline » Thu May 16, 2013 2:22 pm

While the short term it's a good deal for you, I think it prices you out of most any of the keepers you would get in return. I say go for it an focus on a couple guys you really like to try to keep.
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby pizzaboy76 » Thu May 16, 2013 2:44 pm

I don't think I would do this trade. You have players that are just starting to break out and a few vets that should be able to hold things down for at least one more year.
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby RasmusFlow » Thu May 16, 2013 2:56 pm

Still not entirely sure how the $ leagues work. But, from a keeper league perspective, I'd take this trade. You're getting a huge amount of present talent and Rosario + Jones still have a lot of great years ahead of them.
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby etex211 » Thu May 16, 2013 3:01 pm

Thanks for helping on mine.

I think you first have to determine what your priority is. If you your main goal is to win this year, then I think it is a good deal for you. If you are worried about next year and beyond, then maybe not.

If I have a chance to win, then I play for now and worry about the future later on.

Given that and your current position in the standings, I think I'd pull the trigger.

Hope this helps. Thanks again.
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby baegames » Thu May 16, 2013 10:30 pm

counteroffer given. New thoughts.
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Re: Trade future for present WHIR

Postby LumberYardMT » Thu May 16, 2013 11:16 pm

I don't know about the money stuff but from a standpoint of the players I would take the trade. It helps you now and for the next year or two.
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