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Postby suckerpuncher » Fri May 10, 2013 2:40 pm

Looks like Liriano will return tomorrow. Anyone thinks he'll be an fantasy asset for the rest of the season? Maybe in deeper leagues? Or is he more or less done?

Similar situation with Danks. Should be back next week. Any value in him this season?


Would anyone take a gamble on any of those 2?
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby Skin Blues » Fri May 10, 2013 5:20 pm

I'd stash Liriano, but he'd be on my bench until he's shows me something. He has immense talent and he's young, and his arm is as healthy as it's ever going to be (it was his non-throwing arm that was injured) so why not take a shot? He seems to be very mentally fragile but when he finds a groove he's one of the best. I have him in my NL Only league but like I said, I'm not starting him until I see he's healthy and effective.

Danks... not interested. No strikeout ability, bad team, bad park, low ceiling.
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby SpecialFNK » Sat May 11, 2013 12:11 am

Liriano's biggest problem in the past has been walks. this season in AAA he has had 16.1 IP, 15 H, 23 K, and only 1 walk. 3.38 ERA, 1.00 WHIP.

I feel tempted to start him tomorrow, even though I know I probably shouldn't.
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby Izenhart » Sat May 11, 2013 4:12 am

SpecialFNK wrote:Liriano's biggest problem in the past has been walks. this season in AAA he has had 16.1 IP, 15 H, 23 K, and only 1 walk. 3.38 ERA, 1.00 WHIP.

I feel tempted to start him tomorrow, even though I know I probably shouldn't.



IIRC Liriano had a great spring last year too in the control and K/IP dept, yet struggled when it counted. He's on my watch list for now.
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby SpecialFNK » Sat May 11, 2013 5:37 pm

I did it, I started him today!
not bad. 5.1 IP, 6 H, 2 walks, 9 K! and the win.

now I can cheat (if that's what you would call it) and put Liriano back in a DL spot, and pick up another player until Liriano's next start. he faces Milwaukee next.
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby Ender » Sat May 11, 2013 6:24 pm

He threw almost as many balls as strikes and was playing an awful offense. I'm still not buying Liriano. I do buy Kazmir though who I'd rather go after than either of these guys.
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby SpecialFNK » Sat May 11, 2013 6:33 pm

you must be really down on Liriano.
there is no way I would want anything to do with Kazmir. he hasn't been healthy since 2010, and his last 2 seasons in 2010 and 2009 he was terrible.
if I had picked up Kazmir off waivers, I would be trying to sell him so fast before he got injured again.
I don't know if I trust Liriano, but I think he has a higher ceiling than Kazmir.
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby suckerpuncher » Sat May 11, 2013 7:48 pm

I actually picked up Liriano, Kazmir and Danks since our league is pitching heavy. Stashed Liriano and Danks on DL for now.

By our league rules I have 14 days after the first start to make a decision whether to acitvate a player from DL or drop him so I can sit back and watch 2 more starts from Liriano and make a decision by then. Who knows what happens to him or Kazmir in that time.

Same with Danks though it's more to block someone else to scoop him up than anything else.
FA pool for SP is pretty thin with Colon, Westbrook, Volquez and Leake as the most recognizable options left.

At least Liriano showed some promise today and didn't tank.
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby Ender » Sat May 11, 2013 7:48 pm

SpecialFNK wrote:you must be really down on Liriano.
there is no way I would want anything to do with Kazmir. he hasn't been healthy since 2010, and his last 2 seasons in 2010 and 2009 he was terrible.
if I had picked up Kazmir off waivers, I would be trying to sell him so fast before he got injured again.
I don't know if I trust Liriano, but I think he has a higher ceiling than Kazmir.


Why would I not be down on Liriano? He has been bad 4 of the past 5 seasons now and not just a little bad but destroy your ratios bad for most of that.

Kazmir at least is throwing strikes and has his velocity back up so there is some sort of reason to believe in him.

I mean if you want to look at a 1 start sample Kazmir's was at least 3 or 4 times as impressive as Liriano's. Better opponent, better control, better stuff.
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Re: Liriano/Danks set to return

Postby SpecialFNK » Sat May 11, 2013 8:13 pm

AJ Burnett was pretty bad before he went to Pittsburgh last year. Liriano is now also in the NL.
Liriano prior to this season has spent his entire career in the AL.
according to baseball-reference Liriano interleague (vs NL).
117 IP, 92 H, 126 K (9.7 K/9), 39 BB, 3.31 ERA, 1.12 WHIP.
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