Stud pitchers have been doing it for a long time, and everyone has confidence in them. Up and comers maybe just as good, just takes time to develop that kind of confidence. I would say that if a guy does it until the all-star break, they are pretty solid. But then they have to reprove themselves to me the next year with a strong start, maybe 2 or 3 for a guy like Loiza. After two years they are bonafied stud until they prove me wrong.