hey guys, this is the epic 20 team ~30-roster-size 15x15 H2H league that has 16 restriction-free keepers (altho i think there's a vote where most people want 12. c'est la vie). i missed my draft this year so outside of my 16 keepers i got a bunch of crap and it seems like short of repeating the pitching dominance i had last year (i finished 4th/20 in the league with a below-avg offense) this team is gonna be dead in the water.
so with that in mind, in 2011 i managed to tank the season and build up assets, getting strasburg in that draft and getting trout during the year... and suffice to say people want them. so lemme list what i've got here and tell you my trade/waiver options:
c - jesus montero (k) 1b - brandon belt (k) 2b - danny espinosa (k) ss - ian desmond (k) 3b - miguel cabrera (k) IF - brett lawrie (k/DL at the moment) IF - brandon crawford OF - mike trout (k) OF - dayan viciedo (k) OF - nate mclouth (ick) util - marlon byrd util - justin ruggiano util - andres torres bench/IF - gaby sanchez (filling in for lawrie atm) bench/NA - anthony gose
SP - stephen strasburg (k) SP - madison bumgarner (k) SP - matt moore (k) SP - jeremy hellickson (k) SP - jason marquis (i left the draft with johan santana, david huff, and jeff karstens. worried about the required 36IP/week, so i added him right away) RP - craig kimbrel (k) RP - steve cishek (K) RP - jake mcgee (k) RP - vinnie pestano (k) (and here comes the guys i didnt draft) RP - jared hughes, jared burton, kevlin herrera, nate jones, dale thayer, craig stammen DL - jeff karstens
edit: there's waiver cash. everyone starts off with $1000, and with 4 divisions the best record each week in the division gets $100 and the division leader at the end of the month get $200. the rich get richer.... also, you can trade for waiver cash, effectively selling players. this has worked for me in the past. right now there's like ~5 teams with the max $1000.
i've got a trade offer on the table of ian kinsler, matt kemp, evan longoria, and yu darvish for trout and strasburg. this guy wants trout AND/or strasburg bad. here's his roster....
Adrian Gonzalez (LAD - 1B,OF) Martin Prado (Ari - 2B,3B,SS,OF) Pablo Sandoval(SF - 3B) Elvis Andrus(Tex - SS) Ian Kinsler Justin Sellers Carl Crawford Justin Upton) Matt Kemp (util section down here) Kendrys Morales Nolan Reimold Evan Longoria Dustin Pedroia (benched
Yu Darvish R.A. Dickey Clayton Kershaw Hisashi Iwakuma Wily Peralta Rafael Betancourt Drew Storen Tim Collins Antonio Bastardo Sean Doolittle Mike Dunn Ernesto Frieri Jorge De La Rosa DLl Franklin Morales Jonny Venters
-- he's offered me other trades with upton/kinsler and dickey.... and in the past i jokingly offered him trout and strasburg for kershaw and kemp (along with someone like adrian gonzalez just to piss him off) but as you can see this guy is willing to toss me a lot..... as one guy who responded said, he looks at it like yu for strasburg str8up then it's kinsler/kemp/longoria for trout. idk.... do yuo lot like that? i can click accept on that trade at any point if i want to do it.
so what would you do if you were me? try to dangle trout/strasburg out there and cash out high before any potential performance regression / injury derails either of their value, cuz i mean trout is ranked #1 in the game and being young everyone wants him and i can get multiple players in return.... or would you stand pat and effort the waiver guys, figuring that if everything goes to 12 keepers next year having top-of-the-heap guys like trout and strasburg is worth even more?
if i didnt respond to your ? already leave a link to it and ill get to it here. sorry this is so verbose but like, yeah its a pickle and a quandary and i wish i didnt miss the draft otherwise i woulda pimpslapped these clowns. missing iwakuma, boggs, and other guys from last year is gonna hurt more than i thought, cuz keeping belt over iwakuma was a last second thing.... hell i even let brandon beachy go cuz i was gonna get him back in the draft, but i thought it was on thursday when it was on a wednesday.... c'est la vie.
Last edited by sinicalypse on Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
It was a bit tl;dr for me (sorry), but here are my 2 cents.
Don't deal Trout or Strasburg ever, no matter what.
Gyorko is the best value out of those three people. Bradley may not catch on and could be demoted once Ortiz comes back, and Fernandez is a year or two away from making any impact. I'm surprised the Marlins are doing what they're doing--can anyone say Dontrelle Willis?
(In reference to an Aaron Hill for David Price swap)
mpieco wrote: You're my new hero if that gets accepted.
btw i've noticed that maurer is coming up (of course DAMN THE LUCK that his waiver date is april 5th so like, the rest of the league will know that he's starting and i doubt i can get him for dirt cheap) cuz basically i'd love to get one of these young arms... otehrwise it's a pelfrey/marquis type situation just to make sure i make my 36 IP weekly thing....
so i figure ppl are gonna toss cash out there @ these guys. in 2011 trout went for like $1200, moustakas/rizzo were like $1300, shoot brandon belt had his hot start and was a full boat $1000 move at the time.... i missed a nice stash on a $3 dee gordon, but like.... right now i've got 437 for fernandez, 337 for gyorko, 226 for bradley, and then like $7 for a casey kotchman... you know, a warm body starting at 1B who can add to the putouts and at bats and whatnot. all that stuff adds up cuz this league counts every stat offensively/defensively.
maurer has more expeirnece than fernandez, but never dominated like fernandez. so if i dont wanna toss the whole damn boat, or at least most of it, at fernandez should i use maurer as my backup plan hoping i get pelfrey tonight to make my innings limit (along with marquis de sade) ??
It would take a whole lot for me to let go of Trout and Strasburg, but I would probably take that deal. I think Darvish could have a Cy Young type year this year. Look at the last month of 2012. He's adjusted to the different strike zone in the U.S. I wouldn't trade Strasburg for Darvish straight up, but it's not that far apart. Now, Kinsler/Longoria/Kemp for Trout? Yes sir. Trout's stock is through the roof right now, but he could almost has to regress this year, at least a little bit. Kinsler can go through slumps and Longoria and Kemp could get injured, but the upside is huge.
Or... you could see just how bad he wants Trout and Strasburg by countering with Darvish/Kemp/Longoria/Justin Upton. It would be a very one sided deal for you, but he might want your guys bad enough to do it.