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Would You Veto This?

Postby RedHopeful » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:58 am

Jose Reyes/Oscar Taveras/Shelby Miller

for

Josh Reddick/Chris Sale/2nd round pick

20 team yahoo dynasty where 22 of a roster of 25 are kept each season. Std categories + OPS + Holds
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby msing » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:15 am

Seems like a fair trade from here.

Established player + Potential + Potential
Established player + Medium + 2nd Round ...

With keeping 20 of the 23, I suppose the 2nd Round doesn't have that much talent.
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby converge241 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:57 am

Id rather have the reyes/taveras side, but not vetoable. I can certainly understand a reaction/feeling of asking.

I don't believe in Reddick or hold much value in him, but there are fans and I could be wrong.
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby Ender » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:13 am

Veto's are a pretty hard area to talk about.

It is a pretty terrible deal imo and I say that as someone who doesn't like Reyes much. That doesn't mean it should be vetoed out of hand though, it just depends on how your league views things. I can see where the deal makes sense in a redraft league, in a dynasty league it feels pretty bad.
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby Havok1517 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:14 am

I like the Reyes side better depending on what the 2nd rounder might amount to.
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby bigken117 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:19 am

I'd take the Reyes side
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby j24jags » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:21 am

I definitely prefer the Reyes side, but I'm generally against vetoing unless collusion is evident. That certainly depends on the precedents set in the past in your league. While the upside of Miller and Taveras is enticing, neither has done anything at the major league level yet so it is difficult to weigh their value in the trade.
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby jfg » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:23 am

I don't think it's veto worthy. Like others said, vetos should only be used when it's obvious the owners are colluding.
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby thedude » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:28 am

jfg wrote:I don't think it's veto worthy. Like others said, vetos should only be used when it's obvious the owners are colluding.



This.

I would love to get the Reyes side, but I would never veto that. To play the devil's advocate, I understand why someone would want Chris Sale, he is young and has the potential to be a dominant starter for years.
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Re: Would You Veto This?

Postby MashinSpuds » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:31 am

Can't say I'd veto either, as it depends on what a manager sees in certain players. Perhaps the manager getting Reddick thinks he's 20+ HR talent for years to come, and hopes that Chris Sale is a steady contributor that gets stats now and is not a wait-and-see kind of guy (Miller). I don't know what the 2nd pick could get the manager, but if it's a solid enough prospect/player then maybe it's worth it.

The name values flash brightly for the Reyes side, and in a dynasty I personally would prefer to roll with Taveras and Miller for years to come, but I think one manager in that deal has a different opinion. I'd say let it go through.
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