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Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby pjtroy34 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:15 pm

12 team league, 3-year keeper, weekly lineup, each category is a win
6x6: BA, R, HR, RBI, SB, KO-BB; W, L, S+HD, ERA, WHIP, K
C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, (4) OF, DH; (4) SP, (2) RP, (1) P; (8) BENCH
We can keep one player in our top 5 rounds and 10 players overall.
Players drafted or kept in top 5 rounds move up 1 round, all others 2 rounds.

My 10 keepers:
Cain (4th, 1)
Waino (9th, 2)
Zobrist (11th, final)
Zimmermann (14th, final)
Stanton (15th, final)
M. Moore (16th, 2)
Dickey (17th, 1)
Medlen (18th, 1)
Hosmer (19th, 2)
Lawrie (20th, 2)

I also have Profar (18th, 1)

Had a deal in place for Allen Craig, but the owner got cold feet after Craig got his new contract today(this owner is an idiot).

A different owner says he will deal me Gordon (15th, 2) for either Zimmermann or Dickey.
Which do you lean?
Dickey's K's should drop, ratios should rise; Zimmermann is on last year of deal, but K's leave a little to be desired. If I got Gordon for Dickey someone would need to slide to 13th round...someone to 14th if for Zimm.

Thoughts? WHIR if link is posted.
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Re: Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby Fenris-77 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:13 pm

I'd be very happy to get Gordon for either guy, but I'd prefer to deal Dickey if I had to pick.
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Re: Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby jtsandwich » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:25 pm

Do it for Zimmermann. I like Zim this year, but it your last year with him and its a 14th round. RA is going to regress, that will come with the AL East alone. Wash is going to be very solid and I think you will get a 2 win bump from almost any Wash starter based on the 3 headed moster finishing games from the 7th inning on.

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Re: Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby rjforlife » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:27 pm

I wouldn't do the deal for either guy, Gordon is not trustworthy and both of those pitchers are coming off great years. I don't hate the deal, but you could do much better.

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Re: Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby Fenris-77 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:30 pm

rjforlife wrote:I wouldn't do the deal for either guy, Gordon is not trustworthy and both of those pitchers are coming off great years. I don't hate the deal, but you could do much better.

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Huh. I'd think a quick look at Gordon's underlying numbers would be cause for great optimism. I'd bet I have Gordon ranked three or more rounds higher than you do RJ, which explains our difference in opinion. :-)
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Re: Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby pjtroy34 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:43 pm

Any other opinions? These are pretty evenly split.
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Re: Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby Bostonboy » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:26 am

I'd trade either for Gordon. Gordon's underlying numbers are very good, and as KC gets better, all his number should improve. I think that good pitching will be easier to find this year than solid OF's.
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Re: Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby fsbarren » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:52 am

Though I like Zimmermann a bit more (mainly for certainty/uncertainty reasons) I would trade him over Dickey. If Dickey is able to maintain a high level of value that'll be one more piece to work with for trades, etc. It's the extra year that does it for me. I'm not that high on Gordon (I think you might be able to grab more), but you will get value with him in this trade.
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Re: Alex Gordon for? WHIR

Postby USCMD » Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:50 am

First if you need an outfielder more than a starting pitcher (big if) then trading Zimmerman is the way to go. In a player evaluation service I use, Dickey is projected to go in the 6th round, Zim in the 10th.

Their era's are close Dickey 3.63, Zim 3.61.....but Dickey will throw ~224 innings, Zim ~192.

I think its much easier to argue the rationale of giving up a guy who plays every 5th day, for one thats going to play every day. How many A.L. outfielders are likely to outperform Gordon? 6. Jones, Trout, Cespedes, Bautista, Ellsbury and Jackson.

So ask yourself this, any chance you'll land one of the 6? If not, then tell Zim to start packing.

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