Frieri - a non-closer; you don't keep a non-closer in the sheer hope that gets the job back Feliz - injured and working his way back from TJ surgery; not likely to pitch until after the all star break; in almost every league, you don't stash a player in this situation unless he's a superstar Burnett - a clear regression candidate; always wildly consistent and not likely to be above average for 2 seasons in a row. Fiers - He's an alright middle-of-the-rotation starter but that isn't enough to knock off one of the other guys on the list.
mm92280 wrote:Frieri - a non-closer; you don't keep a non-closer in the sheer hope that gets the job back Feliz - injured and working his way back from TJ surgery; not likely to pitch until after the all star break; in almost every league, you don't stash a player in this situation unless he's a superstar Burnett - a clear regression candidate; always wildly consistent and not likely to be above average for 2 seasons in a row. Fiers - He's an alright middle-of-the-rotation starter but that isn't enough to knock off one of the other guys on the list.
I disagree with your opinion on Feliz. Feliz has the talent to be a true ace he just cant stay healthy. So the reason for dropping him would because he cant get healthy, imo. I hope to pick him back up in either the last round or after the draft unless I find another prospect that has the ability to come up this year and help my team.
Also Frieri is expected to be the closer for the first month and if he dominates then hopefully the Angels stick with him. I dont want to lose out on a closer that plays for the Angels and has so high potential. I don't think I can drop Frieri.
My current situation. I have already dropped Hardy. I am going to update my list and remove Hardy and a few others that I have decided to not release. I feel the last 3 drops will come from Uggla, Fiers, Burnett, Feliz or Harrison.
I have already dropped Hardy. The guys up on the list is the updated who to cuts. So I now need to drop 3. I am glad someone is saying I should keep Feliz but it just makes it even harder to make my decision.
misterf wrote:since you have rollins already at SS, and since you are short on closers, keeping Frieri and dropping Hardy instead probably does make the most sense in this case,
(though in general I would value Hardy above Friers.....but not by nearly enough to overcome the specific circumstances of your team)
I agree. I have to assume that most if not all of the set closers are going to be kept, so you're a little short on that, and the guys you currently have (Wilhelmsen, Grilli) are not 40-save guys that would bail you out if you only had two of them. Also, if 2013 is anything like 2012, then closers are going to be falling by the wayside every week and having the likely candidates could prove sage (which, funny enough, could be an argument to drop Frieri and just keep your eyes open). Either way, it looks likes you're going to have to speculate on saves at some point.
Another thought: You might want to offer Frieri and Wilhelmsen to the owner who has Madson ONLY IF he has a 40-save closer guy like Kimbrel or Paps to send back. If you get one of those guys, you're already in an improved position on saves and can then speculate on another saves guy if you want.
misterf wrote:since you have rollins already at SS, and since you are short on closers, keeping Frieri and dropping Hardy instead probably does make the most sense in this case,
(though in general I would value Hardy above Friers.....but not by nearly enough to overcome the specific circumstances of your team)
I agree. I have to assume that most if not all of the set closers are going to be kept, so you're a little short on that, and the guys you currently have (Wilhelmsen, Grilli) are not 40-save guys that would bail you out if you only had two of them. Also, if 2013 is anything like 2012, then closers are going to be falling by the wayside every week and having the likely candidates could prove sage (which, funny enough, could be an argument to drop Frieri and just keep your eyes open). Either way, it looks likes you're going to have to speculate on saves at some point.
Another thought: You might want to offer Frieri and Wilhelmsen to the owner who has Madson ONLY IF he has a 40-save closer guy like Kimbrel or Paps to send back. If you get one of those guys, you're already in an improved position on saves and can then speculate on another saves guy if you want.
Good luck!
The guy who has Madson does have Papel and also Rodney. ;o Think i should offer them 2 for Papel?
misterf wrote:since you have rollins already at SS, and since you are short on closers, keeping Frieri and dropping Hardy instead probably does make the most sense in this case,
(though in general I would value Hardy above Friers.....but not by nearly enough to overcome the specific circumstances of your team)
I agree. I have to assume that most if not all of the set closers are going to be kept, so you're a little short on that, and the guys you currently have (Wilhelmsen, Grilli) are not 40-save guys that would bail you out if you only had two of them. Also, if 2013 is anything like 2012, then closers are going to be falling by the wayside every week and having the likely candidates could prove sage (which, funny enough, could be an argument to drop Frieri and just keep your eyes open). Either way, it looks likes you're going to have to speculate on saves at some point.
Another thought: You might want to offer Frieri and Wilhelmsen to the owner who has Madson ONLY IF he has a 40-save closer guy like Kimbrel or Paps to send back. If you get one of those guys, you're already in an improved position on saves and can then speculate on another saves guy if you want.n
Good luck!
The guy who has Madson does have Papel and also Rodney. ;o Think i should offer them 2 for Papel?
Yes. I'd ask for Paps and offer him either closer along with Frieri (one trade with Frieri/Wilhelmsen and one with Frieri/Grilli and let him choose) and basically say that if he's willing to give up a couple of saves by going from Paps to Wilhelmsen or Grilli, you can ensure he gets all of the Angels' saves. A couple of saves difference for insurance on Madson.
It depends on his level of concern about Madson and how well you can make the pitch. Worse comes to worse, maybe you settle for Rodney, but I'd push for Paps and be prepared to ride Madson for the early saves. If he says no and something does end up happening to Madson, you'll get all the saves and he'll be primed for a similar trade if the same circumstances come up in the future.
I can see it working or him rejecting it in two seconds. All depends on the personality of the owner.
Ye the guy rejected saying he cant afford to take 2 guys because he doesnt know who he wuld drop. I dont think he is very interested.
I am also tryin to trade Harrison + Burnett for an upgrade but not working well either. I dno maybe I am askin too much. What type of pitcher should I try to acquire for the both of them?
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