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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby fsbarren » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:57 am

This is how I look at Granderson:

Of the top 50 hitters in RBIs last season, Grandson had the second worst avg (only Dunn was worse).

Of the top 50 hitters in HRs last season (where you'd expected BA to be overall lower with a lot of hit & miss guys), Granderson was still 46th out of 50 in avg.

Grandy's power numbers were solid last season (43HR/106RBI/102R/10SB) but that .232 avg is a stat killer. Can you really put a guy that could ruin an entire stat as a top 10 player (especially in a 5x5)? I couldn't.

Maybe top-20, although I couldn't fault people ranking him in top 30. He would definitely not be a first rounder for me, and probably even not a second rounder unless is was at the very end. Third round for me.

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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby Frenchiegangsta9 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:26 am

I felt the same way about Granderson. I didnt think he warranted first round consideration and maybe not even 2nd round either in a 12 teamer. That avg is a concern as well as the big dip in SB's. Like I said in my 1st post, there are many other "safer" players I prefer over the Grandy man so early in the draft. I guess that its a good thing that many people are picking him so early, leaving other players for me to pick up...Muah ha ha.
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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby J35J » Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:07 pm

He's not going to end up on any of my teams either.
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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby bayside » Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:29 pm

I dont think Id take him inside the top 15 either but in the late 2nd round how can you argue with a floor of 35/90/95/10? And a ceiling of somewhere around 40/110/110/25?
Its possible his average jumps back up inothe .260ish range as well
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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby ayebatter » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:06 pm

Nobody's fantasy team ever end's up with as good or as bad a batting average as they project. I'm gonna own Granderson in every league I can after the 14th pick.
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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby Frenchiegangsta9 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:30 pm

ayebatter wrote:Nobody's fantasy team ever end's up with as good or as bad a batting average as they project. I'm gonna own Granderson in every league I can after the 14th pick.


You are indeed a man of your word. You took Granderson 15th in the Cafe's Slow Mock. I was then intrigued/surprised to see that you took 5 OF with your first 5 picks:

14th Bautista
15th Granderson

42nd Ellsbury
43rd BJ Upton

70th Melky
And then finally you took a 2nd baseman with your 6th pick(Kipnis)

Were you taking best available over addressing specific positions? It was just interesting to see someone fill their OF spots by the 5th round.
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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby ayebatter » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:46 pm

Frenchiegangsta9 wrote:
ayebatter wrote:Nobody's fantasy team ever end's up with as good or as bad a batting average as they project. I'm gonna own Granderson in every league I can after the 14th pick.


You are indeed a man of your word. You took Granderson 15th in the Cafe's Slow Mock. I was then intrigued/surprised to see that you took 5 OF with your first 5 picks:

14th Bautista
15th Granderson

42nd Ellsbury
43rd BJ Upton

70th Melky
And then finally you took a 2nd baseman with your 6th pick(Kipnis)

Were you taking best available over addressing specific positions? It was just interesting to see someone fill their OF spots by the 5th round.


Position scarcity is a myth. ;-)
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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby Ender » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:17 pm

I'm not a big fan of Granderson at 14 but he certainly shouldn't be going into the 3rd round in a 14 team league either. He probably slots in around picks 20-28 depending on what you need and what your plans are for the next pick.
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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby fsbarren » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:33 pm

Ender wrote:I'm not a big fan of Granderson at 14 but he certainly shouldn't be going into the 3rd round in a 14 team league either. He probably slots in around picks 20-28 depending on what you need and what your plans are for the next pick.


;-D Right on!

Also, I'd make sure my first rounder had a solid average and would probably look for catcher with a solid average as well to safeguard the stat...just in case.
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Re: Curtis Granderson...

Postby Ender » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:23 pm

ou are indeed a man of your word. You took Granderson 15th in the Cafe's Slow Mock. I was then intrigued/surprised to see that you took 5 OF with your first 5 picks:


His first 4 picks in the latest draft I'm in with him were Bautista, Granderson, Teix, BJ Upton so yeah he definitely practices what he preaches! Might be 2200 AB of sub .250 AVG right there. I on the other hand passed on Upton and Zobrist because I drafted Bruce and didn't want 2 AVG anchor's. I can't say I fully agree with ignoring AVG early, I think AVG and R are usually the underrated stats of fantasy baseball and the easier places to game the system on offense.
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