jfg wrote:I don't think it matters if Pierre plays everyday, I still think he's going to get 30 steals without hurting average. There's no player at this point of the draft who can give you a 6-7 point bump in one category without killing your average other than Pierre.
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But he gives you negative points in 3 categories. Pierre had almost 0 value last year with his 37 SB, he hurt you as much in R/RBI as he helped with the SB.
jfg wrote:I don't think it matters if Pierre plays everyday, I still think he's going to get 30 steals without hurting average. There's no player at this point of the draft who can give you a 6-7 point bump in one category without killing your average other than Pierre.
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But he gives you negative points in 3 categories. Pierre had almost 0 value last year with his 37 SB, he hurt you as much in R/RBI as he helped with the SB.
There are no negative points in the 16th round of a zero bench league.
jfg wrote:I don't think it matters if Pierre plays everyday, I still think he's going to get 30 steals without hurting average. There's no player at this point of the draft who can give you a 6-7 point bump in one category without killing your average other than Pierre.
This
But he gives you negative points in 3 categories. Pierre had almost 0 value last year with his 37 SB, he hurt you as much in R/RBI as he helped with the SB.
There are no negative points in the 16th round of a zero bench league.
Sure there are. There is still replacement level. I get what you are saying I guess, if he ends up platooning or stinking the loss is pretty darn low for players picked here. I'm not saying it is a bad pick, I'm just not high on the guy. But the point remains that just because he gives you 35 SB doesn't mean he has value. He has to play more than he did last year to really have value. I would assume mookie is expecting more than 440 PA and more than 59 R. I mean if he busts out 2010 again he is a huge bargain.
I think the pick of Pierre was vital for Mookie not because of what Pierre can and can't do, but because of his team's iffy speed issues at that point. A solid enough, harmless burner was a good move regardless of role and age. Chris Perez, though, looks like a move that was similar to self-flogging.
I can't believe Juan Pierre inspired this much conversation
He was an alright pick, although I had him making it back to Mookie next time around. Mookie's got a balanced offense, but a lot of question marks still to answer with his pitching. There's potential though.
I hated Chris Perez last year, this year he seems like a fine flier as long as this injury doesn't last into the season. He actually made all the idiots who drafted him last year look smart by improving his peripherals and becoming a decent pitcher~. Last year's skillset is fully closer worthy.
Ender wrote:I hated Chris Perez last year, this year he seems like a fine flier as long as this injury doesn't last into the season. He actually made all the idiots who drafted him last year look smart by improving his peripherals and becoming a decent pitcher~. Last year's skillset is fully closer worthy.
Yeah, I was seriously thinking about drafting him this round before Mookie made my decision for me.
Before we get into this discussion of who is eligible to be drafted or not, I'll let everyone know that there has been no set rule against drafting players without MLB experience in previous years. Bryce Harper was drafted in the Masters last year so I see no reason not to continue that way. It appears that there was some discussion on this in the original thread posted in the Cafeholics Forum, well not really a discussion more like 2 or 3 guys brought it up in 3 or 4 posts buried in the midst of recruitment for the leagues themselves. Since it wasn't against the rules before and it wasn't posted here in the Scummers forum we'll continue on as before - no new rules.