3-for-2 Keeper trade. WHIR!

[dmbpanic]

I posted a trade offer a few days ago, but things have evolved, so I'm starting a new thread and would really appreciate any feedback. Thanks!

I'm in a Y! 10-team 5x5 mixed keeper league (standard scoring). We can keep 5 players each year, and players can be kept for 5 consecutive years before they have to go back to the draft. My keepers are currently:

Cargo (2 years left: 2013, 2014)
Stanton (3 years left: 2013 - 2015)
Strasburg (4 years left: 2013 - 2016)
Hamels (3 years left: 2013 - 2015)
Tulowitzki (1 year left: 2013)

Would you do either of these trades...and if so, which one would you prefer?

My Hamels for his Hanley Ramirez (4 years left: 2013 - 2016)
My Hamels, Cargo and Tulo for his Hanley and McCutch (2 years left: 2013, 2014)

Thanks for your input. Leave a link and I'll reply.

[GiantsFan14]

I'd pass on both. Hamels for Hanley is close but I think I slightly prefer Hamels. Don't like the second trade at all.

[dmbpanic]

Don't like the second trade at all.

What if he added Gio Gonzalez (4 years) to his side? I get Hanley, McCutch and Gio for Hamels, Hanley and Cargo. He isn't going to keep Gio anyway, so it's no loss to him.

[GiantsFan14]

Much closer, but I think I'd still pass. Cargo and Cutch are basically a toss up, but I like Hamels a decent bit more than Gio and Tulo much more than Hanley. The extra years don't make it worth it imo.

[MaudDib]

Much closer, but I think I'd still pass. Cargo and Cutch are basically a toss up, but I like Hamels a decent bit more than Gio and Tulo much more than Hanley. The extra years don't make it worth it imo.

Agree with all of this. First deal is ok but I think I would rather have Hamels. Plus you don't need a SS so this doesn't help you all that much. The second deal even with Gio isn't good enough. I still think Tulo is a top 15 player and Cargo is a top 15 player. Thats an awful lot for McCutchen (who is a top 15 guy as well) and Hanley who has been too inconsistent the past few years. Drop Cargo out of the first deal and it is a lot closer.

[KELLYLEAK]

no to both deals.

[Fear the Beard]

I would do the Hamels for Ramirez deal but than u should see what u can get for Tulo Ramirez is (in my opinion) going to have a Ramirez of old type season i think his move to LA was what he needed and Phillies and getting really old and look what happened to Lee last year could easly happen to hamels (thou i dont see that happening) but Tulo and Ramirez r the same type talent but Ramirez can play 3B as well

[HOOTIE]

I like Hamels for Hanley, since after this year, you have no SS.
Plus you get a extra year from Hanley.

[MadDog36]

Hamels for Hanley I might do that as well.
You can always play with them both *use one at SS or the other at MI or Hanley at 3b. I'm thinking it might be wisest to use both because of Tulos injury risk.

[Fear the Beard]

I agree Plus if u are not in contention u can always trade Tulo to upgrade other Positions for the Next year