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Re: Cliff Lee and Coco Crisp or Hellboy and Jennings?(WHIR)

Postby SecretAgentMan » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:12 am

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SecretAgentMan wrote:Depends. I am not sold on Hellickson or Jennings and Cliff Lee is 34 and still going strong. Crisp is not a factor. Comes down to whether you believe Hellickson and Jennins are going to be anything special. If not it is an easy call to take Cliff Lee.


Why would Crisp not be a factor?

Cause he has never been all that good. Negative in 4 of 5 categories and can't stay healthy. Never walks either. The only thing he brings to the table is SBs and that is when he is on the field. Been in the Majors since 2002 and never played more than 145 games (twice). His best year was with Cleveland 8 years ago. I do not see him as a consideration in this deal. He is basically a throw in.
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Re: Cliff Lee and Coco Crisp or Hellboy and Jennings?(WHIR)

Postby beisbol4ever94928 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:44 am

If you have a chance to win this year, I would go with the Lee side, but long term, I take Hellickson side.

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Re: Cliff Lee and Coco Crisp or Hellboy and Jennings?(WHIR)

Postby MadDog36 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:19 am

I'd take Hellickson and Jennings for sure.
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Re: Cliff Lee and Coco Crisp or Hellboy and Jennings?(WHIR)

Postby HOOTIE » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:51 pm

I would take the Lee side.
Hellickson is overrated. He's more likely to regress given his babip and strand rates.
Jennings has more power, but so far, hasn't proven he can hit for average.
Crisp matches him in everything but hrs.
Of course in 3 years, this deal no longer likely wins.
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Re: Cliff Lee and Coco Crisp or Hellboy and Jennings?(WHIR)

Postby GiantsFan14 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:45 pm

SecretAgentMan wrote:
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SecretAgentMan wrote:Depends. I am not sold on Hellickson or Jennings and Cliff Lee is 34 and still going strong. Crisp is not a factor. Comes down to whether you believe Hellickson and Jennins are going to be anything special. If not it is an easy call to take Cliff Lee.


Why would Crisp not be a factor?

Cause he has never been all that good. Negative in 4 of 5 categories and can't stay healthy. Never walks either. The only thing he brings to the table is SBs and that is when he is on the field. Been in the Majors since 2002 and never played more than 145 games (twice). His best year was with Cleveland 8 years ago. I do not see him as a consideration in this deal. He is basically a throw in.


it would not surprise me at all to see crisp outperform jennings this year. he's also way more valuable than hellickson. he's hardly a non-factor.
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Re: Cliff Lee and Coco Crisp or Hellboy and Jennings?(WHIR)

Postby Tosabigdog » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:01 pm

I have to agree with keeping the young guns over the vets in a dynasty format. I also agree that short term (2013) Lee and Crisp could help you account more. I think Jennings will finally pass "potential" status.
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