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Postby Ender » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:14 pm

His peripheral stats took a complete nose dive the past 2 years so I really don't expect him to return to top 5 pick territory. Still a viable 1st round guy.

They are also starting to test for HGH and if I had to pick one player in all of baseball that I'd be worried about from that, it is him.
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Postby lastingsgriller » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:24 am

Pujols has been so good since his first MLB at-bat that I doubt he is a substance user. Just too consistent for too long. While that is good news, there is bad news to go with it. No substance use means he should have a traditional end of career decline, which appears to have started over the past few years.

Albert is on the decline. But, I suppose that, in itself, doesn't mean he can't crank out one more monster year.
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Re: Pujols

Postby Kimbos Beard » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:14 am

Here is another vote for Pujols being on the decline. There are a couple of other threads which really have some good discussion on pujols declining.
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Re: Pujols

Postby oscar15 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:34 pm

There are some warning signs that his best years are behind him, but tough to argue with the logic.

I'm taking Cabrera and Braun over him ...maybe Cano.
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Re: Pujols

Postby Slayer Rules » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:32 pm

oscar15 wrote:There are some warning signs that his best years are behind him, but tough to argue with the logic.

I'm taking Cabrera and Braun over him ...maybe Cano.


What about Trout
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Re: Pujols

Postby oscar15 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:20 pm

Slayer Rules wrote:
oscar15 wrote:There are some warning signs that his best years are behind him, but tough to argue with the logic.

I'm taking Cabrera and Braun over him ...maybe Cano.


What about Trout



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Re: Pujols

Postby Ender » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:26 pm

Pujols is #11 on my draft sheet but I wouldn't pick Posey over him so he is really #10 and there are a couple other names I'm not sure I would go by the sheet over the upside with him. At 1B I'd much rather have Votto and I'd just slightly rather have Fielder who is safer imo.
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Re: Pujols

Postby GiantsFan14 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:53 am

I've got him ranked 5th. He bounced back pretty well after that horrendous start last year. I think he's still got another big year in him.
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Re: Pujols

Postby ayebatter » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:37 am

GiantsFan14 wrote:I've got him ranked 5th. He bounced back pretty well after that horrendous start last year. I think he's still got another big year in him.


This ;-) ..........but maybe 6th
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Re: Pujols

Postby Slayer Rules » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:32 pm

Ender wrote:Pujols is #11 on my draft sheet but I wouldn't pick Posey over him so he is really #10 and there are a couple other names I'm not sure I would go by the sheet over the upside with him. At 1B I'd much rather have Votto and I'd just slightly rather have Fielder who is safer imo.


Yeah this is my sense on Pujols - he's a bit of a conundrum for those of us drafting with a #4/#5 slot in a 12-teamer. I've seen ranks in the top 5 and also the bottom 5 of that first rd.

When you look at the stats Trout brings to the table, even factoring in some amount of regression, my gut says he's the pick at #4 over Pujols or Votto. I'd rather have either Pujols or Votto over Cano, so it's that trio of players from which I'll have to decide .

Pujols vs Votto is an interesting breakdown. You'd have to take a leap of faith with Pujols that he'll post a better season than last year and ignore what appears to be inevitable career decline with age. Still - he switched leagues, so his slow start wasn't shocking. The depth of his slow start was the shocking part.

Both of them are in potent lineups - not sure yet how I'd call that.
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