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WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby dmbpanic » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:20 am

I'm in a Y! 10-team 5x5 mixed keeper league (standard scoring). We can keep 5 players each year, and players can be kept for 5 consecutive years before they have to go back to the draft. My keepers are currently:

Cargo (2 years left: 2013, 2014)
Stanton (3 years left: 2013 - 2015)
Strasburg (4 years left: 2013 - 2016)
Hamels (3 years left: 2013 - 2015)
Tulowitzki (1 year left: 2013)

I was just offered Hanley (4 years left: 2013 - 2016) and McCutchen (2 years left: 2013, 2014) for my Cargo and Strasburg. I've gone back and forth on this, but am currently leaning against it. Your thoughts?

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My thoughts:
Reasons I'm against: I like McCutch slightly more than Cargo, but I like Strasburg way more than Hanley - particularly over the full 4 year period. I want to be optimistic about Hanley, but the last few years have me spooked. He still tends to be fairly highly rated - and multi-position eligibility (at least for 2013) with 20/20 potential is nice, but I think Strasburg can have 2-4 years of vintage Pedro or Johan Santana type numbers.

Reasons I haven't rejected the trade yet: 1) I personally think McCutch has more upside over the next two years than Cargo; 2) Concern about arm troubles with Strasburg (nothing specifically tied to Stras...just the increased injury risk for all SPs). 3) Scarcity of SS/3B vs. SP.

Thanks again for your help.
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Re: WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby HOOTIE » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:53 am

I pass. Strasburg just is like you say, too much over Hanley.
Just to cover your SS once Tulo is gone, try Hanley for Hamels?
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Re: WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby KELLYLEAK » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:26 am

I'd pass and keep Strasburg. If he stays healthy he's a star and will only improve his wins, k's, etc. with more innings pitched. Hanley has risk too- he's ok but not the star he was in the past imo.
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Re: WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby Kimbos Beard » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:46 am

Cargo and McCutch basically wipe themselves out, so to me the trade boils down to Hanley for Strasburg. I am just not buying into a Hanley resurgence enough to pass on Strasburg, who could be the best pitcher in baseball over the next 2-3 years. Also as you mentioned since this would be a long term deal and you don't know how Hanleys position eligibility will play out so its very hard to factor in position scarcity into this trade at all.

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Re: WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby MadDog36 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:17 am

He is offering you a legit deal, and if all things equal...the years of control for the second best pitcher in the game, I'd just have to pass on this.
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Re: WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby plamb23 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:40 am

Another pass vote :-t
Keep the Cutch and Stras--you won't regret it

I do like the Hamels for Hanley idea brought up by Hootie. Give it a shot
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Re: WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby dmbpanic » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:49 pm

Thanks for the feedback and confirmation.

Even though I would gain an extra keeper year by trading Hamels for Hanley, I'm still not sure I come out ahead (SP's tend to go higher in this league than general leagues). So...two questions:

1) Should I counter with my Cargo + Hamels for his McCutch + Hanley?

2) If he rejects that, is Hamels for Hanley worth doing, or do I just keep my roster as is for now?

Thanks again.

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Re: WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby HOOTIE » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:55 pm

You can try the offer.
You only have Tulo one more year. I take 4 years of Hanley over Hamels.
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Re: WHIR! Keeper trade: Cargo + Strasburg for McCutch + HRam

Postby dannahann » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:56 pm

I'd do either option but far prefer option 1. Infact before going the straight 1-1 Hamels Hanley route I'd look into several 2-2, 3-3 type scenarios to also net you Cutch. Tulo's final year would be in play for me for instance.
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