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Postby converge241 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:00 am

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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby Ender » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:25 am

Cruz and Gonzalez don't surprise me that much either just because of their injury issues. I think a lot of time injury is what leads guys to taking PEDs.
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby converge241 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:29 am

The surprises were more just that the first 4 got caught, I am somewhat surprised it wasnt more names in general, maybe more to come.

Fantasy owner wise; I JUST traded gio a few weeks ago (draft picks)...so ;-D but I own Cruz in another keeper :-t
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby kaiser » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:34 am

Certainly bears watching, especially for someone like me, who will have to decide whether to keep Gio in just a few weeks...
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby converge241 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:44 am

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
players named in Miami New Times piece can be suspended if allegations check out. positive test not needed to suspend.

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mlb will investigate allegations in miami new times. had been looking into the Miami issue already. http://bit.ly/TR11uG
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby kaiser » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:57 am

converge241 wrote:Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
players named in Miami New Times piece can be suspended if allegations check out. positive test not needed to suspend.


Yes, that is in line with the last agreement between players and owners.
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby J35J » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:59 am

Yawn.


There is WAAAAYYYYYY too much money to be made for guys to quite trying to get an advantage somehow. All it takes is 1 or 2 good seasons and you will get a huge contract....even if you do eventually get caught. There is every incentive in the world to juice up and almost none to not juice up.
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby kab21 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:18 pm

Ender wrote:Cruz and Gonzalez don't surprise me that much either just because of their injury issues. I think a lot of time injury is what leads guys to taking PEDs.


Gio has been pretty healthy for awhile. I understand your point since it's easier to recover from an injury with steroids but I also think that taking steroids leads to more injuries. Increased muscle mass but usually decreased flexibility.
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby BigZ38 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:14 pm

With the money being made by MLBers, I'd be doing PEDs faster than you can say a word you can say really really fast.
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby Izenhart » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:18 pm

J35J wrote:Yawn.


There is WAAAAYYYYYY too much money to be made for guys to quite trying to get an advantage somehow. All it takes is 1 or 2 good seasons and you will get a huge contract....even if you do eventually get caught. There is every incentive in the world to juice up and almost none to not juice up.


And this is the problem. Either make the punishments more severe or this is what baseball will continue to be. I say hit them in the wallet more and allow teams the option of voiding the contract and suspend players for a year on first offense. Harsh, potentially unfair and will probably never happen, but if what's in place now isn't working then change will come eventually.
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