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Re: Bruce/J. Upton for Votto

Postby chargerss24 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:38 pm

He rejected the Bruce/J. Upton for Votto deal. :-t

I'm now working with another owner on a package for his 2.50 Fielder and 1.00 Greinke for my Bruce/Upton/Hamels.
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Re: Bruce/J. Upton for Votto

Postby Kimbos Beard » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:51 pm

chargerss24 wrote:

I'm now working with another owner on a package for his 2.50 Fielder and 1.00 Greinke for my Votto/Upton/Hamels.


Bruce, right?
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Re: Bruce/J. Upton for Votto

Postby chargerss24 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:54 pm

Kimbos Beard wrote:
chargerss24 wrote:

I'm now working with another owner on a package for his 2.50 Fielder and 1.00 Greinke for my Votto/Upton/Hamels.


Bruce, right?


D'oh! Right. !+)
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Re: Bruce/J. Upton/Hamels for Fielder/Greinke

Postby beisbol4ever94928 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:41 pm

I like the amended trade much better, but it still leaves a lot of cuts to be made. But Votto is definitely an upgrade and it still sheds a little bit off the price.

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Re: Bruce/J. Upton for Votto

Postby PeoplezChoice » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:25 pm

Kimbos Beard wrote:
chargerss24 wrote:This trade offer has now been amended to be a Bruce/Upton for a 2.50 Joey Votto. Hate to give up two stud bats for one, but with my salary issues, I don't have a lot of choice in trade or flat out dropping, some big time players. Thoughts? WHIR as always! ;-D


This trade is much better than the last. It cuts your salary cap problem basically in half (the last trade didn't) and moves one of the guys who is tremendously overpaid on your team in Bruce (the last trade didn't). The chance to get a first round bat in Votto and the salary cap savings makes this a good move. I pull the trigger on it.


I liked the Greinke deal better because of his price tag and I like Prince over Votto personally. But you have 2 other top OF so you can lose Upton/Bruce, cut salary AND vastly improve 1B (I'm really down on Morneaus future)
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Re: Bruce/J. Upton for Votto

Postby Uncle Whiskey » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:09 am

chargerss24 wrote:He rejected the Bruce/J. Upton for Votto deal. :-t

I'm now working with another owner on a package for his 2.50 Fielder and 1.00 Greinke for my Bruce/Upton/Hamels.


While I am not as on board with this as I was with the Votto deal, it is still a fine deal in regards that you are cutting salary and getting good players in return. I do not like trading Hamels, but the .80 difference between him and Greinke probably makes up for the difference. That still leaves you with a strong rotation. This also drastically improves your first base situation. Though, while I don't believe Morneau will ever be the player he once was, a dime for him is still pretty good.

Thanks for your help on mine.
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Re: Bruce/J. Upton for Votto

Postby Kimbos Beard » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:29 pm

chargerss24 wrote:He rejected the Bruce/J. Upton for Votto deal. :-t

I'm now working with another owner on a package for his 2.50 Fielder and 1.00 Greinke for my Bruce/Upton/Hamels.


Whats the Status on this trade. It seems to make sense from a salary point as it will be saving you quite a bit of money. I think it makes sense. Hopefully all the chatter about Hamels shoulder doesnt scare off the owner.
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Re: Bruce/J. Upton for Votto

Postby chargerss24 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:00 pm

Kimbos Beard wrote:
chargerss24 wrote:He rejected the Bruce/J. Upton for Votto deal. :-t

I'm now working with another owner on a package for his 2.50 Fielder and 1.00 Greinke for my Bruce/Upton/Hamels.


Whats the Status on this trade. It seems to make sense from a salary point as it will be saving you quite a bit of money. I think it makes sense. Hopefully all the chatter about Hamels shoulder doesnt scare off the owner.


I was pushing for a 3-2 trade, Bruce/Upton/Hamels for Fielder/Greinke, but he was dead-set on getting Rosario in the deal as well. I had him throw in Nick Markakis and Ryan Doumit and got the deal done. I have a full squad now and right at the $26 cap limit, providing our prices don't change before the prices lock down Feb. 1.

C - J. Lucroy (0.20), R. Doumit (0.10)
1B - P. Fielder (2.50)
2B - D. Pedroia (1.70)
SS - S. Castro (2.10)
3B - E. Longoria (2.40)
MI - H. Ramirez (1.70)
CI - B. Lawrie (1.50)
OF - J. Heyward (2.10), C. Gonzalez (3.40), D. Jennings (2.00)
U - J. Morneau (0.10), N. Markakis (0.40), D. Brown (0.10) ----- May just drop Brown just to see who all is available in the auction.

SP - D. Price (1.90), Z. Greinke (1.00), J. Zimmermann (1.20), M. Moore (0.20), B. Anderson (0.10)
RP - J. Grilli (0.50), J. Nathan (0.60), J. McGee (0.10), S. Doolittle (0.10)

Minors - OF Wil Myers, SP Zach Wheeler

Players traded away: J. Bruce (3.40), J. Upton (2.70), A. Chapman, (1.70), W. Rosario (1.40), C. Hamels (1.80)

Players to be dropped/traded before auction day: Y. Alonso (0.90), B. Belt (1.00), Z. Cozart (1.20), E. Hosmer (1.90), T. Cahill (0.40), M. Boggs (0.30), E. Frieri (0.40)
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Re: Bruce/J. Upton/Hamels for Fielder/Greinke

Postby MadDog36 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:45 am

Ok this is your new team here:
You took some hits but I suppose it was ok. Desmond Jennings is a bit expensive but whatever.
Drop Grilli and Brown too for a cheaper MRP and maybe you'll have some finagle room to steal a closer at the auction and reasily replace Brown with a good bench utility bat.
C - J. Lucroy (0.20), R. Doumit (0.10)
1B - P. Fielder (2.50)
2B - D. Pedroia (1.70)
SS - S. Castro (2.10)
3B - E. Longoria (2.40)
MI - H. Ramirez (1.70)
CI - B. Lawrie (1.50)
OF - J. Heyward (2.10), C. Gonzalez (3.40), D. Jennings (2.00)
U - J. Morneau (0.10), N. Markakis (0.40), D. Brown (0.10) ----- May just drop Brown just to see who all is available in the auction.

SP - D. Price (1.90), Z. Greinke (1.00), J. Zimmermann (1.20), M. Moore (0.20), B. Anderson (0.10)
RP - J. Grilli (0.50), J. Nathan (0.60), J. McGee (0.10), S. Doolittle (0.10)
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Re: Bruce/J. Upton/Hamels for Fielder/Greinke

Postby ensanimal » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:44 am

MadDog36 wrote:Drop Grilli and Brown too for a cheaper MRP and maybe you'll have some finagle room to steal a closer at the auction and reasily replace Brown with a good bench utility bat.


I could see dropping Brown to see if you can grab another sleeper in the draft. I would not however drop Grilli as he is closing in PIT and 0.50 is pretty good for a closer.
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