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Postby Remotethumb » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:22 pm

12-team H2H 5x5 standard mixed/salary cap league ($255 cap) 23 players, no CI or MI but we have 1 DH. Start 5 SP & 2 RP and 1 player each position plus DH.

Salaries fluctuate year-to year. Using Sporting News set prices, we take last year's player salary, add it to this year's listed salary and divide by 2 to get the cost of each player. The thought is if you get in on the ground floor for a player and keep him year-to-year, you can save $$. So I'm usually interested if you see some good value here on my team.

Also, we maintain 3 minor leaguers. If you bring a minor player up, he is a "free" keeper. You pay him ($1 + this year's list price)/2.

This year I'm bringing up C Jesus Montero (for $3) and OF Leonys Martin ($1). I have the option of bringing up SP Trevor Bauer for $6 and will most likely bring him up. I do this to have some cheap depth on my team from the start and also to clear my minor league spots for new prospects.

We keep 4. Help me choose.
No-brainers?
1B Votto $33
ss Tulo $30
OF McCutchen $32
OF Heyward $23

Value Keepers?
3B Moustakas $10
3B K. Seager $7

Pitching
SP Medlen $12 (value jumped from $1 to $22)
SP C. Sale $14 (from $4 to $23)
SP RA Dickey $18 (from $8 to $28)
SP Bumgarner $22
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Re: Hello Again! Keeper Question

Postby wildcatbandit525 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:20 pm

Not sure I would take Tulo at that price with the injury risk. I would probably go with Medlen or Sale as the final keeper.
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Re: Hello Again! Keeper Question

Postby beisbol4ever94928 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:34 pm

I don't like that amount of money for Tulo because he seems almost destined to spend time on the DL. I would much rather have an undervalued Sale going into the future. Perhaps trade Tulo for a better option as a keeper and a good prospect that you likely wouldn't call up. Kind of a two for one deal?

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Re: Hello Again! Keeper Question

Postby MadDog36 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:22 pm

1B Votto $33
ss Tulo $30
3b Seager 6
OF McCutchen $32
OF Heyward $23
SP Medlen
SP Sale

I'd keep these.
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Re: Hello Again! Keeper Question

Postby kidsilk » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:15 pm

I would throw back Tulo and keep Medlen

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Re: Hello Again! Keeper Question

Postby MaudDib » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:18 pm

I am going to go with the four you listed as no brainers. I still believe in Tulo and he has shown that even if he doesn't stay healthy he can put up top 10 numbers.

I am constantly surprised at how many people are on the Medlen bandwagon. He is one guy I am not going to own this year. Maybe I miss out on something. Right now it seems like he has passed being a value and is now going at a price where he has to produce and all I see is regression coming. In your league, he might still be a value but not by much. I think you will be able to find plenty of good SP at $12. Where as you aren't going to be able to replace those hitters. I would also bet that most SS of decent value will be kept which makes Tulo a good keeper as well.
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Re: Hello Again! Keeper Question

Postby daullaz » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:01 pm

I'd take the four no-brainers as well.
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Re: Hello Again! Keeper Question

Postby Element » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:36 am

I like my chances best with the 4 you chose as well.
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Re: Hello Again! Keeper Question

Postby Remotethumb » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:31 am

Thanks as always guys. I'll be getting on the cafe forums in the next few days trying to Help Out. I just like to get a little more research in before I start advising! ha ha

As for my own keepers, I guess I could have asked "Would you keep Tulo at $30 considering his injury history?" You all answered that one way or the other. I think the fact that Reyes, hanley R., Andrus and Castro will probably be kept would make me want to keep Tulo. Someday he's got to stay healthy, right? :-)

But if I 'throw back" Tulo (or better, trade him for a draft pick) I might still be looking at grabbing a Jimmy Rollins or a Zobrist (or I might not). So we'll see on that. Which brings me to my follow up question...I have been offered a team's 2nd round pick (19th overall pick in the re-draft) for Tulo. Keep in mind all 12 teams are keeping 4 players, so obviously the top 48 players will be kept, give or take, some will keep lower ranked players b/c of value. So is keeping either Moustakas, Seager, or any of the 3 pitchers plus the "draft pick" equal or greater than keeping Tulo? Thanks.

P.S. As for the guy who doesn't understand the Medlen excitement, in a way I understand. (I'm a Braves homer BTW) He just sort of throws the ball, nothing fantastic...and the other guys can't hit it. I hope he doesn't "come back down to Earth" but I keep waiting on the hitters to figure out that almost every pitch he throws will be a strike, so just swing. But as a Braves fan, I waited on hitters to figure that out about some guy named Maddux. (No, No, No I'm not saying Medlen is Maddux :-) ) This year's Sporting News says this: Many fantasy owners owe their championship to Medlen. From July 31 he was 9-0, 0.97 ERA, 0.80 WHIP and 84/10 k/BB in 83.2 innings. I'm not trying to cast Medlen as the next Cy Young winner. Just saying that he helped me get to my league championship game. So although I will most likely throw him back (depth of pitching), I am still gonna target him big time in my other, non-keeper leagues. I have him ranked around 95 in my top 200. And if you've never watched him pitch, watch him pitch next year.

And Bumgarner, yes, he was great for my team last year. Sporting News is glowing about him also. 3.20 ERA through 534 career innings. Plus, last year was almost identical to 2011. And he's just 23 years old.

Anyway, I digress. (ha ha) Thanks and I'll be getting on here soon.
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