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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby jeffmerk » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:23 am

Garry26 wrote:Matt Harvey- SP, Mets. He looks like he is ace quality stuff, but will be overlooked because he's in the Madoff scam shafted, Fred [S]Coupon[/S] err...Wilpon Mets.

Hiroyuki Nakajima- Shortstop. A 300 hitter with some steals.

So far I have not found any Ace type Japanese pitchers though. Those are the really good ones. Matsuzaka before he got hurt, Yu Darvish, and a couple others that are OK, but not ace-types. I don't think they're top 10 SP material, but rather that they're fairly unknown 200K to 200 inning 'ace' types. So they're not drafted as early as they should. So I can draft another known player earlier on, and still draft the Japanese guy later.

Basically, I get an extra top player that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. That's their value. Which will not work with the Shortstop. I suppose I can grab a closer when I would normally grab a SS, but that's not as valuable as grabbing a power hitting 1B and still have a decent 200K SP available later.


Will Nakajima have any more success than Nishioka did with the Twins? Japanese closers have had some success so Fujikawa looks like a good sleeper candidate for the Cubs.
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby BigZ38 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:00 pm

Can Matt Harvey really be considered a post hype sleeper?

He has 10 starts (last year) and was very useful from a fantasy perspective.
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby daullaz » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:04 am

I don't think Harvey or Nakajima qualify as post-hype sleepers, though.
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby Kimbos Beard » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:34 pm

daullaz wrote:I don't think Harvey or Nakajima qualify as post-hype sleepers, though.


I like Harvey alot, but he's definitely not a post hype sleeper. In fact I think Harvey will be a "hyped sleeper" if there is such a thing. I think by the time the March drafts roll around there is going to be quite a bit of "buzz" around Harvey and he will be appropriately valued if not maybe over valued.
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby jfg » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:11 pm

I think Hosmer is still going to be going fairly high in drafts so I don't know if he's completely in the post-hype stage yet. One guy who's been mentioned that I think totally falls into post-hype is Montero who really only had one year of hype. This may not be his breakout year, but he put up semi decent numbers for a catcher last year and I'm seeing him out of the top 10 on a lot of catcher lists. I'd be happy with a small upgrade of last years numbers if I'm drafting him as the 10th-12th catcher taken and have the chance of getting something much better than last year. Expectations based on a small uptick from last year: .265, 20-25 HR, 80 RBI, 60 R. Upside: .275, 30 HR, 95 RBI, 70 R.
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby J35J » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:11 pm

jfg wrote:I think Hosmer is still going to be going fairly high in drafts so I don't know if he's completely in the post-hype stage yet.


Hosmer went at 12.04(136th overall) in the first Cafe Mock...I'm not expecting him to go very high unless he has a good spring.
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby Saltydog » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:25 pm

The tough part of this discussion is the level of "hype" given to anyone.

Alex Gordon is a terrific example of a PHS that broke out a few years ago.

Here's a few that I could think of that qualify as "hyped" prospects that are now less than ideal sleepers:

Colby Rasmus
Gordon Beckham
Jemile Weeks
Dee Gordon
Lonnie Chisenhall
Drew Stubbs
Logan Morrison

I would venture to guess that two of the above players will return Top 200 value, but I wouldn't want to have to choose.
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby OldEnglishZ » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:24 pm

Pineda in keeper leagues
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Only play deep AL-only formats.
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby OaktownSteve » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:59 am

Brett Gardner, Lo Cain, Wade Davis, Julio Tehran, Devin Mesoraco, Zack Cozart, Brandon Belt
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Re: Post Hype Sleepers

Postby AHF » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:23 pm

OaktownSteve wrote:Brandon Belt


This was the name I was going to raise. How do the Giants fans on here feel about him for 2013? I expected much more out of him last year (something like .280, 20 HRs, and useful RBI/R numbers). I had high hopes for him given his good eye and great numbers in the minor leagues. I'll still consider a $1 flyer on him in my keeper league if I need a spot to fill but won't target him like I did last season.
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