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Postby jhawkinson3 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:49 pm

5x5 Roto....5 keepers with no restrictions ... 10 pitchers/13 hitters

Current keepers are Cano, Kemp, Weaver, Votto and then one of Bourn or Trumbo(yuck)

I've been offered two trades for Votto:

Kershaw and Starlin Castro
Or
Gio Gonzalez and Bryce Harper


Thoughts?
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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby Kimbos Beard » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:59 pm

How many teams are there?

I wouldn't even consider the Gio Gonzalez trade. Unless this is some ridiculously deep league that trade is basically Harper for Votto, which I would never do.

Now the first trade is a little interesting, but ultimately I would probably pass. To me Kershaw is the best young pitcher in the game and Castro is a top 3 shortstop. But in a league where you only keep 5 I would prefer to have four bats and one pitcher. Also the trade is really Votto and Bourn for Castro and Kershaw. I don't love Bourn as a 5th Keeper at all but he has some value, I guess.

Ultimately in your situation I would hold onto the first round elite batter.

You could always look to make a trade after the draft.
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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby jhawkinson3 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:01 pm

12 teams sorry
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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby kaiser » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:33 pm

I think Kimbo is seriously undervaluing Gio Gonzalez. He has more value in that deal than Harper does. That being said, I wouldn't take either trade for Votto. Kimbo is right when he says that you keep the first round bat.
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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby wildcatbandit525 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:38 pm

kaiser wrote:I think Kimbo is seriously undervaluing Gio Gonzalez. He has more value in that deal than Harper does. That being said, I wouldn't take either trade for Votto. Kimbo is right when he says that you keep the first round bat.

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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby Element » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:34 pm

Basically it comes down to ...

Votto and Bourn (whom I prefer over Trumbo)

or

Kershaw and Castro

or

Gio and Harper.

I would stick with Votto since you already have Weaver. Kershaw and Castro is fair, but you need the bats more.
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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby americanleagueroto » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:32 pm

I would prefer to keep Votto with your keeper settings. Impact bat, and you already have an arm to keep.

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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby Kimbos Beard » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:36 pm

kaiser wrote:I think Kimbo is seriously undervaluing Gio Gonzalez. He has more value in that deal than Harper does. That being said, I wouldn't take either trade for Votto. Kimbo is right when he says that you keep the first round bat.


The whole point of these forums is to learn, knowing you are a good poster, I went back and examined Gio's numbers. I was a harsher than I should have been on Gio. I still feel that in a 5 keeper league I wouldnt consider Gio anywhere near those top tier pitchers that I would be willing to take back in a trade for Votto. Admittedly that pool of pitchers is limited to a select few.
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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby Brainstorm » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:42 pm

I don't dislike the first deal, but is Votto + Bourn < Kershaw and Castro? It's probably pretty close.

Ultimately, having 3 first round bats, a top pitcher in Weaver, you can probably afford to keep Bourn and not do this deal. I would try to improve that 5th keeper though. Maybe try and package Bourn and Trumbo together for a better 5th keeper? Might be tough to do though...

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Re: Keeper league ... Votto trade..suggestions?

Postby kab21 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:23 pm

Votto is the best player and there isn't enough of a reason to downgrade or add a second pitcher. keep him.
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