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Postby ayebatter » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:54 pm

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/a ... anson.html

You would have to think that ends Greinke going back to them.
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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:38 pm

ayebatter wrote:You would have to think that ends Greinke going back to them.

I doubt it. Hanson should only be around $4 million and they still could use another starter.
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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby bigh0rt » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:23 pm

ayebatter wrote:http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/angels-acquire-tommy-hanson.html

You would have to think that ends Greinke going back to them.

As long as he doesn't sign with the Braves or Phillies.
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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby GiantsFan14 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:42 pm

doesnt make much sense for the braves imo.
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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:50 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:doesnt make much sense for the braves imo.

Unless they think he is going to cost more than he is worth. The Angels better do a good job on the medical exam.
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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby AussieDodger » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:11 pm

Wow interesting trade.

In my opinion you should basically never trade a starter for a reliever, but this may be the case where it's worth it.

Tommy Hanson is a decent SP, but:

1. He can't stay healthy. Only 130 innings in 2011, and an injury somewhere around July in 2012 (in the 2nd half he took a hammering).

2. His bad HR/FB of 2012 is not an outlier, it has a twin brother in 2011.

3. He doesn't have the large helpings of GBs (45%+) that elite SPs have, so he has to rely on his K/BB to be north of 3 to be above-average.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think the Braves will get more value from this trade.
Walden is under team control for one season more, and if Hanson really is "2012 Hanson" or continues to be a 13% HR/FB pitcher, the Braves are making out like bandits.
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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby Element » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:38 am

Hanson's shoulder is a ticking time bomb. The Braves did okay here.
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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby Skin Blues » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:49 am

Meh, it's OK. If they think his shoulder is just going to keep getting worse then it could work out for them. If he stays at the same level then they probably got hosed. 4 seasons of Walden for about the same cost as 3 seasons of Hanson. Hanson has been worth $13M the past 2 seasons even with the injuries and ineffectiveness, while Walden has been worth $10M over the same period. The ceiling is just so much higher for a SP though, as we can see by Hanson's 2009/2010 when he was worth $30M. No matter how good a pitcher is, he'll never give you $15M of value from the bullpen; however dozens of starters do it every year.
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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby J35J » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:59 am

Skin Blues wrote:Meh, it's OK. If they think his shoulder is just going to keep getting worse then it could work out for them. If he stays at the same level then they probably got hosed. 4 seasons of Walden for about the same cost as 3 seasons of Hanson. Hanson has been worth $13M the past 2 seasons even with the injuries and ineffectiveness, while Walden has been worth $10M over the same period. The ceiling is just so much higher for a SP though, as we can see by Hanson's 2009/2010 when he was worth $30M. No matter how good a pitcher is, he'll never give you $15M of value from the bullpen; however dozens of starters do it every year.

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Re: Tommy Hanson to Angels

Postby chargerss24 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:47 pm

Low risk, high reward trade for the Angles. Low risk in the fact that they just give up a middle reliever for a SP that has potential to put up No. 1 stats. If Hanson's shoulder blows out, oh well, they hardly gave up anything.
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