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Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby kaiser » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:02 pm

Here are the names from this year's official ballot. Vote for as many as you think are deserving. I'll compile results and post eventually.

Here's a link toplayer info on those new to the ballot this year, and voting totals for those returning candidates:

http://bbwaa.com/

Sandy Alomar Jr.
Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Jeff Cirillo
Royce Clayton
Roger Clemens
Jeff Conine
Steve Finley
Julio Franco
Shawn Green
Roberto Hernandez
Ryan Klesko
Kenny Lofton
Edgar Martinez
Don Mattingly
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Jose Mesa
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Rafael Palmeiro
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Reggie Sanders
Curt Schilling
Aaron Sele
Lee Smith
Sammy Sosa
Mike Stanton
Alan Trammell
Larry Walker
Todd Walker
David Wells
Rondell White
Bernie Williams
Woody Williams
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby kaiser » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:09 pm

I'll start with my own votes:

Craig Biggio
Dale Murphy
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby J35J » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:38 pm

Just a quick glance going off gut feeling and what I remember and not going back to look through all the numbers....

Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Edgar Martinez
Mark McGwire
Rafael Palmeiro
Mike Piazza
Curt Schilling
Sammy Sosa
Larry Walker
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby Skin Blues » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:51 pm

Bagwell
Bonds
Clemens
McGwire
Lofton
Raines
Walker
Schilling
Edgar Martinez

Those guys should be without much of an argument. Obviously most won't, and it'll probably be a few shmucks like Jack Morris. Rafael Palmeiro is also borderline, but I believe he's the only one on the list that failed a drug test.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby ayebatter » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:53 pm

Deserving:

Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Dale Murphy
Rafael Palmeiro
Mike Piazza
Sammy Sosa
Alan Trammell
Larry Walker
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby GiantsFan14 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:03 pm

kaiser wrote:I'll start with my own votes:

Craig Biggio
Dale Murphy


You think those guys were better than Barry Bonds? Seems weird to me seeing as how Bonds posted a significantly higher career WAR than both of them combined. Bonds had already passed Murphy's career WAR before he was even a Giant.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby Skin Blues » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:11 pm

Yeah, but neither of them were ever nearly as good as Bonds, therefore we know they never used PEDs.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby kaiser » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:12 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:
kaiser wrote:I'll start with my own votes:

Craig Biggio
Dale Murphy


You think those guys were better than Barry Bonds? Seems weird to me seeing as how Bonds posted a significantly higher career WAR than both of them combined. Bonds had already passed Murphy's career WAR before he was even a Giant.


I initially had Bonds, Clemons and Sosa on my list (didn't include Palmiero). Took them off after considering the steroids question a bit more. I understand the argument to be made on either side.

And no, I don't think Biggio or Murph were better than Bonds. But after deciding that admitted steroid users were not going to get my vote, that is who I was left with as my picks. Fred McGriff and Jack Morris also got heavy consideration from me.

I believe the numbers support Biggio. Murph is more just a sentimental pick. But hey- baseball is a game tradition and sentimentality.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby Element » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:22 pm

kaiser wrote:Here are the names from this year's official ballot. Vote for as many as you think are deserving. I'll compile results and post eventually.

Here's a link toplayer info on those new to the ballot this year, and voting totals for those returning candidates:

http://bbwaa.com/

Sandy Alomar Jr.
Jeff Bagwell ;-D
Craig Biggio ;-D
Barry Bonds
Jeff Cirillo
Royce Clayton
Roger Clemens
Jeff Conine
Steve Finley
Julio Franco
Shawn Green
Roberto Hernandez
Ryan Klesko
Kenny Lofton
Edgar Martinez ;-D
Don Mattingly
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Jose Mesa
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Rafael Palmeiro
Mike Piazza ;-D
Tim Raines ;-D
Reggie Sanders
Curt Schilling ;-D
Aaron Sele
Lee Smith
Sammy Sosa
Mike Stanton
Alan Trammell
Larry Walker ;-D
Todd Walker
David Wells
Rondell White
Bernie Williams
Woody Williams


If I had a vote there is where mine would go. I am on the fence with the PED users. Therefore they do not get my vote ... at least for now. I have my suspicions regarding Piazza & Bagwell, but they have never really been linked to anything.

I thought about throwing some votes at Royce Clayton, but decided against it.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame '13: Who gets the call?

Postby soxfan364 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:40 pm

Jack Morris
Jeff Bagwell
Curt Schilling
Alan Trammell

I'm on the fence w/the PED guys too... but I think Bonds and Clemens eventually get in but not this year.

Baseball Ref has a nice quick box of stats http://www.baseball-reference.com/
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