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by **ironman** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:11 pm

I've got my first official draft of rankings posted on my blog now.

http://deepleaguer.blogspot.com/p/2013- ... kings.html

I should be posting some updates regularly from now until the end of March.

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Obviously it's still extremely early but here's a sneak peek at my rankings right now for next year. Maybe spark some discussion.

CATCHER
1. Buster Posey, SF
2. Joe Mauer, MIN
3. Yadier Molina, STL
4. Carlos Santana, CLE
5. Matt Wieters, BAL
6. Miguel Montero, ARI
7. Wilin Rosario, COL
8. Victor Martinez, DET
9. Jesus Montero, SEA
10. Mike Napoli, FA
11. Brian McCann, ATL
12. Salvador Perez, KC
13. Carlos Ruiz, PHI
14. Jonathan Lucroy, MIL
15. Ryan Doumit, MIN
16. A.J. Pierzynski, CHW
17. Alex Avila, DET
18. Jarrod Saltalamacchia, BOS
19. J.P. Arencibia, TOR
20. Russell Martin, FA

FIRST BASE
1. Joey Votto, CIN
2. Prince Fielder, DET
3. Albert Pujols, LAA
4. Edwin Encarnacion, TOR
5. Buster Posey, SF
6. Billy Butler, KC
7. David Ortiz, BOS
8. Mark Teixeira, NYY
9. Adrian Gonzalez, LAD
10. Freddie Freeman, ATL
11. Paul Goldschmidt, ARI
12. Anthony Rizzo, CHC
13. Ike Davis, NYM
14. Paul Konerko, CHW
15. Joe Mauer, MIN
16. Allen Craig, STL
17. Carlos Santana, CLE
18. Adam LaRoche, FA
19. Mark Trumbo, LAA
20. Corey Hart, MIL

SECOND BASE
1. Robinson Cano, NYY
2. Ian Kinsler, TEX
3. Dustin Pedroia, BOS
4. Brandon Phillips, CIN
5. Ben Zobrist, TB
6. Jason Kipnis, CLE
7. Aaron Hill, ARI
8. Jose Altuve, HOU
9. Martin Prado, ATL
10. Rickie Weeks, MIL
11. Kyle Seager, SEA
12. Neil Walker, PIT
13. Chase Utley, PHI
14. Daniel Murphy, NYM
15. Michael Young, TEX
16. Danny Espinosa, WAS
17. Howie Kendrick, LAA
18. Emilio Bonifacio, MIA
19. Omar Infante, DET
20. Dustin Ackley, SEA

THIRD BASE
1. Miguel Cabrera, DET
2. Evan Longoria, TB
3. Adrian Beltre, TEX
4. David Wright, NYM
5. Hanley Ramirez, LAD
6. Aramis Ramirez, MIL
7. Chase Headley, SD
8. Ryan Zimmerman, WAS
9. Pablo Sandoval, SF
10. Brett Lawrie, TOR
11. Will Middlebrooks, BOS
12. Martin Prado, ATL
13. Kyle Seager, SEA
14. Pedro Alvarez, PIT
15. David Freese, STL
16. Alex Rodriguez, NYY
17. Mark Reynolds, BAL
18. Todd Frazier, CIN
19. Mike Moustakas, KC
20. Trevor Plouffe, MIN

SHORTSTOP
1. Hanley Ramirez, LAD
2. Troy Tulowitzki, COL
3. Jose Reyes, MIA
4. Starlin Castro, CHC
5. Ben Zobrist, TB
6. Elvis Andrus, TEX
7. Ian Desmond, WAS
8. Jimmy Rollins, PHI
9. Asdrubal Cabrera, CLE
10. Martin Prado, ATL
11. Derek Jeter, NYY
12. Alcides Escobar, KC
13. Alexei Ramirez, CHW
14. Erick Aybar, LAA
15. J.J. Hardy, BAL
16. Danny Espinosa, WAS
17. Zack Cozart, CIN
18. Jed Lowrie, HOU
19. Marco Scutaro, FA
20. Everth Cabrera, SD

OUTFIELD
1. Mike Trout, LAA
2. Ryan Braun, MIL
3. Matt Kemp, LAD
4. Andrew McCutchen, PIT
5. Giancarlo Stanton, MIA
6. Carlos Gonzalez, COL
7. Josh Hamilton, FA
8. Jose Bautista, TOR
9. Adam Jones, BAL
10. Jason Heyward, ATL
11. Jay Bruce, CIN
12. Justin Upton, ARI
13. Curtis Granderson, NYY
14. Matt Holliday, STL
15. Jacoby Ellsbury, BOS
16. Yoenis Cespedes, OAK
17. Adrian Gonzalez, LAD
18. Bryce Harper, WAS
19. B.J. Upton, FA
20. Michael Bourn, FA
21. Alex Rios, CHW
22. Carlos Beltran, STL
23. Austin Jackson, DET
24. Josh Willingham, MIN
25. Desmond Jennings, TB
26. Ben Zobrist, TB
27. Allen Craig, STL
28. Alex Gordon, KC
29. Mark Trumbo, LAA
30. Shin-Soo Choo, CLE
31. Corey Hart, MIL
32. Shane Victorino, FA
33. Josh Reddick, OAK
34. Andre Ethier, LAD
35. Hunter Pence, SF
36. Martin Prado, ATL
37. Nelson Cruz, TEX
38. Mike Morse, WAS
39. Melky Cabrera, FA
40. Chris Davis, BAL

STARTING PITCHER
1. Justin Verlander, DET
2. Clayton Kershaw, LAD
3. David Price, TB
4. Stephen Strasburg, WAS
5. Felix Hernandez, SEA
6. Cliff Lee, PHI
7. Matt Cain, SF
8. Cole Hamels, PHI
9. Jered Weaver, LAA
10. Gio Gonzalez, WAS
11. Madison Bumgarner, SF
12. CC Sabathia, NYY
13. R.A. Dickey, NYM
14. Chris Sale, CHW
15. Adam Wainwright, STL
16. Roy Halladay, PHI
17. Johnny Cueto, CIN
18. Mat Latos, CIN
19. Zack Greinke, FA
20. Yu Darvish, TEX
21. James Shields, TB
22. Kris Medlen, ATL
23. Jordan Zimmermann, WAS
24. Max Scherzer, DET
25. Yovani Gallardo, MIL
26. Hiroki Kuroda, NYY
27. Doug Fister, DET
28. Brett Anderson, OAK
29. Ian Kennedy, ARI
30. Josh Johnson, TOR
31. Jake Peavy, CHW
32. Wade Miley, ARI
33. C.J. Wilson, LAA
34. Matt Moore, TB
35. Matt Garza, CHC
36. Dan Haren, FA
37. Jarrod Parker, OAK
38. Brandon Morrow, TOR
39. Tim Lincecum, SF
40. Lance Lynn, STL

by **fast dogs** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:16 pm

some solid lists there, I'd have Craig much higher @ 1st

by **Element** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:39 pm

fast dogs wrote:some solid lists there, I'd have Craig much higher @ 1st

Same here. I would also draft Frazier ahead of several of higher options you have at 3B. I always look forward to these. Thanks for sharing.

by **ironman** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:11 pm

Yeah Craig might be a little low. I just saw the Bill James projections on him for 2013. 87/27/104 with a .301/.354/.519. That's probably worth a bump up the list a bit.

by **Ender** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:10 am

I'm very very early into my rankings but I notice people are grossly overrating Carlos Gonzalez given all the injury issues. Nice to see you put him in a pretty good spot.

by **Y`s Guy** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:53 pm

I'm thinking Eric Hosmer will be unloading some whoopass this year. Enough to crack that Top 15 in the 1B group.

by **Element** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:01 am

Y`s Guy wrote:I'm thinking Eric Hosmer will be unloading some whoopass this year. Enough to crack that Top 15 in the 1B group.

It's possible for sure. He would need to figure out the shift first. He also hits A LOT of ground balls. Not a good combo.

by **Ender** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:35 pm

Looking at that list I would strongly suggest you avoid C early. That is one of the deeper groups we've had in years. No reason Lucroy who showed legit .300 AVG plate discipline can't be a .290 AVG, 15 HR guy who bats like 6th in the order and I don't have an issue with him being #14 in that list. A lot of years that would be a top 7 or 8 C.

by **Sekrah** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:11 pm

ironman wrote:SECOND BASE
1. Robinson Cano, NYY
2. Ian Kinsler, TEX
3. Dustin Pedroia, BOS
4. Brandon Phillips, CIN
5. Ben Zobrist, TB
6. Jason Kipnis, CLE
7. Aaron Hill, ARI
8. Jose Altuve, HOU
9. Martin Prado, ATL
10. Rickie Weeks, MIL
11. Kyle Seager, SEA
12. Neil Walker, PIT
13. Chase Utley, PHI
14. Daniel Murphy, NYM
15. Michael Young, TEX
16. Danny Espinosa, WAS
17. Howie Kendrick, LAA
18. Emilio Bonifacio, MIA
19. Omar Infante, DET
20. Dustin Ackley, SEA

IMO, Pedroia should be #2 second baseman and should be going around 16-18. I've seen him fall to 30 in some leagues which is absurd I think. He should be going where he was going last season. Kinsler is on the downside of his career, and Farrell is going to run in Boston.

by **daullaz** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:49 pm

Thanks for posting this! ;-D

I've been working on my rankings this week and will likely publish on the front page soon, but I'm likely going to come back here and check out where we differ greatly to help me think a little harder about those particular players.