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Re: Epic Trade

Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:09 pm

The fact that they kept D'Arnaud, Snydergaard and Aaron Sanchez is pretty amazing.
Now they just have to deal Rasmus and the offseason will be a success.
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Postby lastingsgriller » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:15 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:The fact that they kept D'Arnaud, Snydergaard and Aaron Sanchez is pretty amazing.
Now they just have to deal Rasmus and the offseason will be a success.

Untradable. The jays probably tried to include him in this deal but the marlins said, "naw dude, we're good"
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Re: Epic Trade

Postby SpecialFNK » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:24 pm

Rasmus in the 2 spot, ouch.
IMO he should be at the bottom of the order.
maybe Lawrie in the 2 spot, but I think he would be better in an RBI spot.
I think Bonifacio profiles better in the 2 spot. good/decent OBP to get on base. Reyes and Bonifacio both have a lot of speed. I think that all leads to more run opportunities.
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Re: Epic Trade

Postby Frenchiegangsta9 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:10 am

to respond to Mookie's post, I believe the reason they were able to keep those guys is that the team trading away a large financial burden cant demand too much of a return from a team that is willing to relieve them of that burden. This trade reminds me of the Red Sox/Dodgers players/contracts swap.
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Re: Epic Trade

Postby Halo Homers » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:12 am

No one has mentioned the rotation

Josh Johnson
Ricky Romero
Brandon Morrow
Mark Burehle

Not bad.
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Re: Epic Trade

Postby Saltydog » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:16 am

Forget the incoming TOR manager...

How do you think Mike Redmond feels now?

I'd love to know if Beinfest filled him in on this doozy before offering him the job...
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Re: Epic Trade

Postby GiantsFan14 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:18 am

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Re: Epic Trade

Postby thedude » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:19 am

Poor Jose Reyes and Mark Buehrle. They thought they would thought they would be playing in Miami, now they need to pack away their shorts and convertibles and invest in barn jackets and front wheel drive SUVs.
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Re: Epic Trade

Postby thedude » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:33 am

Rany Jazayerli wrote:MIA paid Reyes & Buehrle $16M COMBINED in 2012 and are now trading them for a boatload of prospects. It's brilliant, in a horribly evil way.



This is kind of the point. The Marlins basically did an NBA-esque sign and trade. The Jays gave away a huge chunk of the farm for two guys they could have had last year without losing a single prospect.
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Re: Epic Trade

Postby mweir145 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:25 am

thedude wrote:
Rany Jazayerli wrote:MIA paid Reyes & Buehrle $16M COMBINED in 2012 and are now trading them for a boatload of prospects. It's brilliant, in a horribly evil way.



This is kind of the point. The Marlins basically did an NBA-esque sign and trade. The Jays gave away a huge chunk of the farm for two guys they could have had last year without losing a single prospect.

If by huge chunk of their farm, you mean none of their top pitching (Sanchez, Syndegaard) or positional (d'Arnaud) prospects, then yes. You are right that theoretically the Jays could have signed such top players last offseason, but it's a little bit easier said then done to sell a guy on a Toronto team that hasn't been to the playoffs in 20 years.

This deal is a remarkable win for the Blue Jays. They gave up nothing of current value beyond Escobar (Alvarez is a SP without a breaking ball, Hech is a SS without a bat, Marisnick and Nicolino are essentially lottery picks, and Jeff Mathis is Jeff Mathis). It's the kind of deal that I've been hoping to see for about 12 years now. If Rogers is actually ready to spend money on this team like the big market team it is (and I'm not going to say entirely they are yet), this could be the start of a new era.
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