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Postby Element » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:46 pm

12-team, 7x7 (OBP, SLG%, Holds, K/BB). Keep 15 of these. The formula with pitchers is having 2-3 reliable and loading up on relievers.

C Matt Wieters, Bal C
C A.J. Pierzynski, CWS C
1B Ryan Howard, Phi 1B DTD
2B Rickie Weeks, Mil 2B
3B David Freese, StL 3B
SS Alexei Ramirez, CWS SS
2B/SS Erick Aybar, LAA SS
1B/3B Carlos Pena, TB 1B
OF Carlos Gonzalez, Col OF
OF Justin Upton, Ari OF
OF Allen Craig, StL OF, 1B
OF Chris Heisey, Cin OF
OF Anthony Gose, Tor OF
UTIL Giancarlo Stanton, Mia OF
UTIL John Mayberry Jr., Phi OF, 1B
Bench Chris Young, Ari OF
DL Eric Young Jr., Col OF

P Vinnie Pestano, Cle RP
P Tom Wilhelmsen, Sea RP
P Brandon League, LAD RP
SP Jered Weaver, LAA SP
SP Jordan Zimmermann, Wsh SP
SP Edwin Jackson, Wsh SP
SP Wade Davis, TB SP, RP
RP Chris Perez, Cle RP
RP Ronald Belisario, LAD RP
RP Javier Lopez, SF RP
Bench Dan Straily, Oak SP
Bench Marco Estrada, Mil RP, SP
Bench Chris Carpenter, StL SP
Bench Ervin Santana, LAA SP
DL Matt Garza*, ChC SP DL60

I could keep Anthony Gose as a 'Graduate' (basically a 16th keeper), but it would cost me my first round pick. There were some pretty decent players that weren't kept last season. So it isn't something that I am going to entertain. He would need to be in my top 15 or I am going to shop him.

I am very high on Kyle Seager for the upcoming season. I am attempting to acquire him with a mid-level 'spect below (Martin Perez). That is still pending though.

I can also keep up to 10 of the below. We have a MiLB draft where everyone leaves with 15 players. So if I only keep 8, I get 7 picks in the draft. I have some pretty good options though. I am thinking of dumping Hagadone, Scheppers & Rodriguez. Puello is on the bubble.

ML Martin Perez (P-TEX)
ML Shelby Miller (P-STL)
ML Tanner Scheppers (P-TEX)
ML Kyle Gibson (P-MIN)
ML Nick Hagadone (P-CLE)
ML Jameson Taillon (P-PIT)
ML Carlos Martinez (P-STL)
ML Gary Sanchez (C-NYY)
ML Yorman Rodriguez (OF-CIN)
ML Cesar Puello (OF-NYM)
ML Taijuan Walker (P-SEA)
ML Noah Syndergaard (P-TOR)
ML George Springer (OF-HOU)
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Re: Pick 15 (plus Minors)

Postby MaudDib » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:47 pm

C Matt Wieters, Bal C ;-D
C A.J. Pierzynski, CWS C
1B Ryan Howard, Phi 1B DTD ;-D
2B Rickie Weeks, Mil 2B ;-D
3B David Freese, StL 3B ;-D
SS Alexei Ramirez, CWS SS
2B/SS Erick Aybar, LAA SS
1B/3B Carlos Pena, TB 1B
OF Carlos Gonzalez, Col OF ;-D
OF Justin Upton, Ari OF ;-D
OF Allen Craig, StL OF, 1B ;-D
OF Chris Heisey, Cin OF
OF Anthony Gose, Tor OF
UTIL Giancarlo Stanton, Mia OF ;-D
UTIL John Mayberry Jr., Phi OF, 1B
Bench Chris Young, Ari OF
DL Eric Young Jr., Col OF

P Vinnie Pestano, Cle RP ;-D
P Tom Wilhelmsen, Sea RP ;-D
P Brandon League, LAD RP
SP Jered Weaver, LAA SP ;-D
SP Jordan Zimmermann, Wsh SP ;-D
SP Edwin Jackson, Wsh SP ;-D
SP Wade Davis, TB SP, RP
RP Chris Perez, Cle RP ;-D
RP Ronald Belisario, LAD RP
RP Javier Lopez, SF RP
Bench Dan Straily, Oak SP
Bench Marco Estrada, Mil RP, SP
Bench Chris Carpenter, StL SP
Bench Ervin Santana, LAA SP
DL Matt Garza*, ChC SP DL60 ;-D

Tough one. You have about 7 guys that are easy. I took 3 RP because of what you said about having relievers but I could also taking a gamble on Estrada and Straily as well.

ML Martin Perez (P-TEX) ;-D
ML Shelby Miller (P-STL) ;-D
ML Tanner Scheppers (P-TEX)
ML Kyle Gibson (P-MIN)
ML Nick Hagadone (P-CLE)
ML Jameson Taillon (P-PIT) ;-D
ML Carlos Martinez (P-STL) ;-D
ML Gary Sanchez (C-NYY)
ML Yorman Rodriguez (OF-CIN)
ML Cesar Puello (OF-NYM)
ML Taijuan Walker (P-SEA) ;-D
ML Noah Syndergaard (P-TOR) ;-D
ML George Springer (OF-HOU) ;-D

This is where I would go. The ones left unkept can be gotten again in the draft but I think I would take as many extra picks just in case there is something better in the draft.
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Re: Pick 15 (plus Minors)

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:07 am

Start with the easy ones:

C Matt Wieters, Bal C
OF Carlos Gonzalez, Col OF
OF Justin Upton, Ari OF
UTIL Giancarlo Stanton, Mia OF
SP Jered Weaver, LAA SP
SP Jordan Zimmermann, Wsh SP

I'd imagine those 6 are mortal locks. That gives you 9 slots. On a second pass, I'd want these guys:

1B Ryan Howard, Phi 1B DTD
2B Rickie Weeks, Mil 2B
3B David Freese, StL 3B
OF Allen Craig, StL OF, 1B
P Vinnie Pestano, Cle RP
P Tom Wilhelmsen, Sea RP
Dan Straily, Oak SP

Leaving 2 spots to fill. For me, I'd consider Ejax, Garza, Alexei Ramirez, and Gose. I'm not confident enough in Gose (legs and defense yes, contact and keeping a low strikeout % no) to go for him over someone established.

Your minors system looks great. I would definitely keep:

ML Martin Perez (P-TEX)
ML Shelby Miller (P-STL)
ML Jameson Taillon (P-PIT)
ML Carlos Martinez (P-STL)
ML Gary Sanchez (C-NYY)
ML Taijuan Walker (P-SEA)
ML George Springer (OF-HOU)

Depending on what you could get by not keeping 10, I'd consider cutting the rest, but unless you can get some real quality players I'd at least keep Kyle Gibson.
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Re: Pick 15 (plus Minors)

Postby pjalst » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:16 am

C Matt Wieters, Bal C ;-D
C A.J. Pierzynski, CWS C ;-D
1B Ryan Howard, Phi 1B DTD ;-D
2B Rickie Weeks, Mil 2B ;-D
3B David Freese, StL 3B ;-D
SS Alexei Ramirez, CWS SS
2B/SS Erick Aybar, LAA SS
1B/3B Carlos Pena, TB 1B
OF Carlos Gonzalez, Col OF ;-D
OF Justin Upton, Ari OF ;-D
OF Allen Craig, StL OF, 1B ;-D
OF Chris Heisey, Cin OF
OF Anthony Gose, Tor OF
UTIL Giancarlo Stanton, Mia OF ;-D
UTIL John Mayberry Jr., Phi OF, 1B
Bench Chris Young, Ari OF
DL Eric Young Jr., Col OF

P Vinnie Pestano, Cle RP
P Tom Wilhelmsen, Sea RP ;-D
P Brandon League, LAD RP
SP Jered Weaver, LAA SP ;-D
SP Jordan Zimmermann, Wsh SP ;-D
SP Edwin Jackson, Wsh SP
SP Wade Davis, TB SP, RP
RP Chris Perez, Cle RP ;-D
RP Ronald Belisario, LAD RP
RP Javier Lopez, SF RP
Bench Dan Straily, Oak SP
Bench Marco Estrada, Mil RP, SP
Bench Chris Carpenter, StL SP ;-D
Bench Ervin Santana, LAA SP
DL Matt Garza*, ChC SP DL60 ;-D

ML Martin Perez (P-TEX) ;-D
ML Shelby Miller (P-STL) ;-D
ML Tanner Scheppers (P-TEX) ;-D
ML Kyle Gibson (P-MIN)
ML Nick Hagadone (P-CLE) ;-D
ML Jameson Taillon (P-PIT) ;-D
ML Carlos Martinez (P-STL) ;-D
ML Gary Sanchez (C-NYY)
ML Yorman Rodriguez (OF-CIN) ;-D
ML Cesar Puello (OF-NYM)
ML Taijuan Walker (P-SEA) ;-D
ML Noah Syndergaard (P-TOR) ;-D
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Re: Pick 15 (plus Minors)

Postby Element » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:09 am

I would love to get a couple more opinions.
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Re: Pick 15 (plus Minors)

Postby Mean One » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:03 am

Element wrote:C Matt Wieters, Bal C ;-D
C A.J. Pierzynski, CWS C
1B Ryan Howard, Phi 1B DTD
2B Rickie Weeks, Mil 2B ;-D
3B David Freese, StL 3B ;-D
SS Alexei Ramirez, CWS SS
2B/SS Erick Aybar, LAA SS
1B/3B Carlos Pena, TB 1B
OF Carlos Gonzalez, Col OF ;-D
OF Justin Upton, Ari OF ;-D
OF Allen Craig, StL OF, 1B ;-D
OF Chris Heisey, Cin OF
OF Anthony Gose, Tor OF
UTIL Giancarlo Stanton, Mia OF ;-D
UTIL John Mayberry Jr., Phi OF, 1B ;-D
Bench Chris Young, Ari OF
DL Eric Young Jr., Col OF

P Vinnie Pestano, Cle RP ;-D
P Tom Wilhelmsen, Sea RP ;-D
P Brandon League, LAD RP
SP Jered Weaver, LAA SP ;-D
SP Jordan Zimmermann, Wsh SP ;-D
SP Edwin Jackson, Wsh SP
SP Wade Davis, TB SP, RP ;-D
RP Chris Perez, Cle RP
RP Ronald Belisario, LAD RP
RP Javier Lopez, SF RP
Bench Dan Straily, Oak SP ;-D
Bench Marco Estrada, Mil RP, SP ;-D
Bench Chris Carpenter, StL SP
Bench Ervin Santana, LAA SP
DL Matt Garza*, ChC SP DL60


I struggled with the 15th keeper over Garza and his injury and Mayberry, Jr and his potential for power if the Phillies give him the chance to start every game. I chose Mayberry because of his 1B position eligibility as well and I think he will do good things next season with the aging lineup in Philly. I like your idea of shopping Gose (you have the OF talent to carry you for now).

Element wrote:ML Martin Perez (P-TEX) ;-D
ML Shelby Miller (P-STL) ;-D
ML Tanner Scheppers (P-TEX)
ML Kyle Gibson (P-MIN) ;-D
ML Nick Hagadone (P-CLE)
ML Jameson Taillon (P-PIT) ;-D
ML Carlos Martinez (P-STL) ;-D
ML Gary Sanchez (C-NYY) ;-D
ML Yorman Rodriguez (OF-CIN)
ML Cesar Puello (OF-NYM)
ML Taijuan Walker (P-SEA) ;-D
ML Noah Syndergaard (P-TOR) ;-D
ML George Springer (OF-HOU) ;-D


I envy your ML keepers with all the pitching talent available but you need some hitters to balance it out. Springer should do well in HOU and worth holding on to. I chose 9 keepers (Sanchez being #9) because of the upside each brings in the coming years. I like Gibson and would definitely hold onto him to see if he has regained his arsenal before the surgery. The Mets are a mess right now and I like your idea of possibly shopping Puello while his value is high enough to get a decent value in return. ;-D
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Re: Pick 15 (plus Minors)

Postby kaiser » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:00 pm

Element wrote:12-team, 7x7 (OBP, SLG%, Holds, K/BB). Keep 15 of these. The formula with pitchers is having 2-3 reliable and loading up on relievers.

C Matt Wieters, Bal C ;-D
C A.J. Pierzynski, CWS C
1B Ryan Howard, Phi 1B DTD ;-D
2B Rickie Weeks, Mil 2B ;-D
3B David Freese, StL 3B ;-D
SS Alexei Ramirez, CWS SS
2B/SS Erick Aybar, LAA SS ;-D
1B/3B Carlos Pena, TB 1B ;-D
OF Carlos Gonzalez, Col OF ;-D
OF Justin Upton, Ari OF ;-D
OF Allen Craig, StL OF, 1B ;-D
OF Chris Heisey, Cin OF
OF Anthony Gose, Tor OF
UTIL Giancarlo Stanton, Mia OF ;-D
UTIL John Mayberry Jr., Phi OF, 1B
Bench Chris Young, Ari OF
DL Eric Young Jr., Col OF

P Vinnie Pestano, Cle RP
P Tom Wilhelmsen, Sea RP
P Brandon League, LAD RP ;-D
SP Jered Weaver, LAA SP ;-D
SP Jordan Zimmermann, Wsh SP
SP Edwin Jackson, Wsh SP ;-D
SP Wade Davis, TB SP, RP ;-D
RP Chris Perez, Cle RP ;-D
RP Ronald Belisario, LAD RP
RP Javier Lopez, SF RP
Bench Dan Straily, Oak SP
Bench Marco Estrada, Mil RP, SP
Bench Chris Carpenter, StL SP
Bench Ervin Santana, LAA SP
DL Matt Garza*, ChC SP DL60

I could keep Anthony Gose as a 'Graduate' (basically a 16th keeper), but it would cost me my first round pick. There were some pretty decent players that weren't kept last season. So it isn't something that I am going to entertain. He would need to be in my top 15 or I am going to shop him.

I am very high on Kyle Seager for the upcoming season. I am attempting to acquire him with a mid-level 'spect below (Martin Perez). That is still pending though.

I can also keep up to 10 of the below. We have a MiLB draft where everyone leaves with 15 players. So if I only keep 8, I get 7 picks in the draft. I have some pretty good options though. I am thinking of dumping Hagadone, Scheppers & Rodriguez. Puello is on the bubble.

ML Martin Perez (P-TEX)
ML Shelby Miller (P-STL)
ML Tanner Scheppers (P-TEX)
ML Kyle Gibson (P-MIN)
ML Nick Hagadone (P-CLE)
ML Jameson Taillon (P-PIT)
ML Carlos Martinez (P-STL)
ML Gary Sanchez (C-NYY)
ML Yorman Rodriguez (OF-CIN)
ML Cesar Puello (OF-NYM)
ML Taijuan Walker (P-SEA)
ML Noah Syndergaard (P-TOR)
ML George Springer (OF-HOU)
ML No Freakin' Clue (?-???) ;-D
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