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Postby SecretAgentMan » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:53 pm

5x5 Roto, 10 team, keep 8, $300 budget, 22/9 roster (2C), 10 beep bench.

Prelim values for my 2013 players of note are below. Which 8 would you keep?

Trout $6
McCutchen $36
Headley $6
R. Zimmerman $1 (if option picked up under contract)
Bourn $9
Votto $6
Tex $8
Tulo $7
Longoria $3
Kershaw $22
Dickey $6
Halladay $1
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Re: Pick 8 Auction Keepers

Postby rjforlife » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:24 am

SecretAgentMan wrote:5x5 Roto, 10 team, keep 8, $300 budget, 22/9 roster (2C), 10 beep bench.

Prelim values for my 2013 players of note are below. Which 8 would you keep?

Trout $6 ;-D
McCutchen $36
Headley $6 ;-D
R. Zimmerman $1 (if option picked up under contract) ;-D
Bourn $9 ;-D
Votto $6 ;-D
Tex $8
Tulo $7 ;-D
Longoria $3 ;-D
Kershaw $22
Dickey $6
Halladay $1 ;-D



Kershaw is very tempting, but the value is incredible on a lot of these guys. Last spot was between Tex/Tulo, but with so many solid guys already, I'd be willing to take a shot on Tulo's upside.
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Re: Pick 8 Auction Keepers

Postby Element » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:55 pm

SecretAgentMan wrote:Trout $6 ;-D
McCutchen $36
Headley $6 ;-D
R. Zimmerman $1 (if option picked up under contract) ;-D
Bourn $9
Votto $6 ;-D
Tex $8
Tulo $7 ;-D
Longoria $3 ;-D
Kershaw $22 ;-D
Dickey $6 ;-D
Halladay $1


These price tags are royally effed. Votto at $6? Tulo at $7? Are you sure that you're not missing a digit in front of those?

I'm not tossing Kershaw back for the likes of Halladay. You can definitely afford him. I'm not sold on Dickey either, but at $6 ....

I do know that I would be shopping the heck out of Tex, Doc, Dickey & Bourn to efforts to upgrade that Dickey spot.
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Re: Pick 8 Auction Keepers

Postby MaudDib » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:50 pm

Element wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:Trout $6 ;-D
McCutchen $36
Headley $6 ;-D
R. Zimmerman $1 (if option picked up under contract) ;-D
Bourn $9
Votto $6 ;-D
Tex $8
Tulo $7 ;-D
Longoria $3 ;-D
Kershaw $22 ;-D
Dickey $6 ;-D
Halladay $1


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I think this is the way I would go. I like who RJ took as well but I think I would keep Kershaw. Though you really need to be looking to deal unless everyone has a roster full of under-valued guys.
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Re: Pick 8 Auction Keepers

Postby pjalst » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:10 pm

SecretAgentMan wrote:5x5 Roto, 10 team, keep 8, $300 budget, 22/9 roster (2C), 10 beep bench.

Prelim values for my 2013 players of note are below. Which 8 would you keep?

Trout $6 ;-D
McCutchen $36
Headley $6 ;-D
R. Zimmerman $1 (if option picked up under contract) ;-D
Bourn $9
Votto $6 ;-D
Tex $8
Tulo $7 ;-D
Longoria $3 ;-D
Kershaw $22 ;-D
Dickey $6
Halladay $1 ;-D



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Re: Pick 8 Auction Keepers

Postby chargerss24 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:18 pm

Element wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:Trout $6 ;-D
McCutchen $36
Headley $6 ;-D
R. Zimmerman $1 (if option picked up under contract) ;-D
Bourn $9
Votto $6 ;-D
Tex $8
Tulo $7 ;-D
Longoria $3 ;-D
Kershaw $22 ;-D
Dickey $6 ;-D
Halladay $1


These price tags are royally effed. Votto at $6? Tulo at $7? Are you sure that you're not missing a digit in front of those?


I totally agree...but the poster said these are preliminary, so by the time they are set in stone, they should be where they need to be. That said...

Trout (Expect to pay more...much more)
Headly
Zimmerman (Expect to pay more)
Votto (Expect to pay more)
Tulo (Expect to pay more)
Longoria (Expect to pay more)
Kershaw
Dickey (Only if he's at or around where he's currently at)
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2B-Pedroia
SS-Reyes
3B-Longoria
CI- Morneau
MI- Kipnis
OF- Myers Jennings Heyward
U- Ellsbury, B. Upton, Bruce

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Re: Pick 8 Auction Keepers

Postby SecretAgentMan » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:59 pm

The values are where they are in this league because of the complicated nature of our keeper rules and contracts. The league sort of emphasizes long term salary planning and finding rookies when they break out.

1. Trout, Headley and Dickey were $1 fliers at the end of the auction last season. Under league rules you can keep anyone not on a long term contract that had 300+ ABs or 100+ IPs (basically played half the year or more) at either actual earned value or prior season auction price + $5 (whichever is less). Hence all are $6 for me next year and I really stepped into it. All are eligble to be given long term contracts, but I am likely only to give Trout a long term deal (though Headley is a possibility).

2. Votto is a prelim value based on what diamond draft is showing for his 2012 value (I usually used Rotowire but they are not free anymore). He missed a lot of time and just made the 300 ABs so his returned 2012 value is low though I am not sure I believe Diamond Draft at $6 low. Seems too low to me but he will be discounted because of he injury.

3. Tulo and Longoria fall under the min 300 ABs, which means I can keep them at half their 2012 auction price and they would revert to market value in 2014 no matter what they do in 2013. Both are coming off long term contracts I gave them (Longoria at $6 and Tulo at $13). So if I wanted to next season I sort of get a discount to compensate for the injuries this season.

4. Halladay's numbers seem to be really low from Diamond Draft but he had an off year so who knows what the final number will or should be.

5. Zimmerman is in the last year option of a contract on the cheap.

This league pays off for those that manage to take chances on rookies that turn out well or on guys that have an injury-plagued season that manage to play at least half the time and bounce back. If you take a chance that they will bounce back, you can really lock in low values. Of course the gamble is you get stuck with a stiff that just plain stinks or is hurt like say Carl Crawford the past two seasons.
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Re: Pick 8 Auction Keepers

Postby kaiser » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:32 am

SecretAgentMan wrote:5x5 Roto, 10 team, keep 8, $300 budget, 22/9 roster (2C), 10 beep bench.

Prelim values for my 2013 players of note are below. Which 8 would you keep?

Trout $6 ;-D
McCutchen $36 ;-D
Headley $6
R. Zimmerman $1 (if option picked up under contract) ;-D
Bourn $9
Votto $6 ;-D
Tex $8
Tulo $7 ;-D
Longoria $3 ;-D
Kershaw $22
Dickey $6
Halladay $1


I'm taking all bats. These values are so screwed, I don't even know where to begin. I get that your league wants to reward guys who take a chance on rookies, but any league that has Joey Votto valued at $6 and Evan Longoria at $3 needs to reassess how they are doing things.
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