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Postby BitterDodgerFan » Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:15 pm

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Re: Roy Halladay owners

Postby Izenhart » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:34 pm

BitterDodgerFan wrote:how are you?


I think it's funny how when people took him they did it to feel "safe" thinking it was a safe pick. There are no safe picks in baseball. Someday even Cabrera will have a bad year.

At least next year Halladay should come at a very nice discount. That 4.5 ERA, rising walk rate and mediocre K rate at his age should push him down a good ways.
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Re: Roy Halladay owners

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:04 am

i guess it could've been worse and i could've been a lincecum owner.
i had halladay last couple seasons and he was solid, so when it came my turn to pick and i didn't see any solid bets left, i went for him.
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Re: Roy Halladay owners

Postby J35J » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:31 am

Izenhart wrote:There are no safe picks in baseball. Someday even Cabrera will have a bad year.


Mike Trout won't. We'll all be long dead and gone and he'll still be putting up .320/30/50 seasons.
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Re: Roy Halladay owners

Postby Izenhart » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:28 pm

J35J wrote:
Izenhart wrote:There are no safe picks in baseball. Someday even Cabrera will have a bad year.


Mike Trout won't. We'll all be long dead and gone and he'll still be putting up .320/30/50 seasons.


If you ever saw the movie 'Cobb' about Ty Cobb, played by Tommy Lee Jones depicting Cobb in his later years, there is a scene where he is asked in front of a listening audience what he would hit against the pitchers of today's game. He answers with a shrug and says 'I dunno .280?' When asked why he would only hit .280 against todays pitchers he replies "Because I'm seventy-four @&^%!@* years old, that's why!"

Trout is great, but he's no Cobb. ;-D
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Re: Roy Halladay owners

Postby Bwanna » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:19 pm

I'm my dynasty league I was OK (playing for championship now), but I had a very deep staff:

Cole Hamels (Phi - SP)
Roy Halladay (Phi - SP)
CC Sabathia (NYY - SP)
Clayton Kershaw (LAD - SP)
Madison Bumgarner (SF - SP)
Max Scherzer (Det - SP)
Jake Peavy (CWS - SP)

Jim Johnson (Bal - RP)
Chris Perez (Cle - RP)
Grant Balfour (Oak - RP)
Carlos Marmol (ChC - RP)
Bobby Parnell (NYM - RP)
[reg season/playoffs]
LFoD '08 [1st/3rd], '10 [1st/3rd], '11 [1st/2nd], '12 [1st/1st], '13, [1st/2nd], '14, [1st/1st]
BRAL '09 2nd, '10 1st
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Re: Roy Halladay owners

Postby mweir145 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:06 am

From the starts I saw, it was pretty clear that Halladay was pitching hurt for most of the year. Velocity on the fastball was down and he was relying on junk more than I've ever seen before. Of course, that could partially be a product of his age too.

Still, I think he could very easily have a bounceback year somewhat like he did in 2005 following his poor, injury filled year, even at a lower velocity (as he will better learn to pitch with the diminished stuff that he has). The peripherals, even this season, were still pretty good. His days of being the best pitcher in the game may be over if the velocity doesn't come back, though.
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Re: Roy Halladay owners

Postby silverZ » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:45 am

Weir nailed it. It's kinda sad watching him struggle out there when he stuff isn't where it used to be. I think age has finally caught up with him. On the plus side if there is anyway he can humanly get his velocity back or succeed with what he has left Doc is the man who can do it. I'd bet on him pitching into his 40s before I'd bet on a complete collapse and retirement in 3-4 years.
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