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Harper and Griffey, Jr.

Postby garf112 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:06 pm

Bryce Harper now has more home runs before his 20th birthday than Ken Griffey, Jr. did. I think he is going to be pretty good. And his season has been one of the best ever for a 19 year old.

Take a look at how close their first seasons mirror each other:

Harper- 112 Games, 489 PA, 77 R, 113 H, 20 2B, 6 3B, 17 HR, 47 RBI, 13 SB, 45 BB, 98 SO, .259 BA, .329 OBP, .449 SLG, 104 OPS+
Griffey- 127 Games, 506 PA, 61 R, 120 H, 23 2B, 0 3B, 16 HR, 61 RBI, 16 SB, 44 BB, 83 SO, .264 BA, .329 OBP, .420 SLG, 108 OPS+

Holy crap. I don't see how anyone could project anything but stardom for Bryce Harper right now. The above is just kind of eerie.
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Re: Harper and Griffey, Jr.

Postby Izenhart » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:54 pm

garf112 wrote:Bryce Harper now has more home runs before his 20th birthday than Ken Griffey, Jr. did. I think he is going to be pretty good. And his season has been one of the best ever for a 19 year old.

Take a look at how close their first seasons mirror each other:

Harper- 112 Games, 489 PA, 77 R, 113 H, 20 2B, 6 3B, 17 HR, 47 RBI, 13 SB, 45 BB, 98 SO, .259 BA, .329 OBP, .449 SLG, 104 OPS+
Griffey- 127 Games, 506 PA, 61 R, 120 H, 23 2B, 0 3B, 16 HR, 61 RBI, 16 SB, 44 BB, 83 SO, .264 BA, .329 OBP, .420 SLG, 108 OPS+

Holy crap. I don't see how anyone could project anything but stardom for Bryce Harper right now. The above is just kind of eerie.


That's really interesting ;-D
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Re: Harper and Griffey, Jr.

Postby J35J » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:24 pm

What are you talking about...Harper has been a huge disappointment...he's only got 47 RBI.
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Re: Harper and Griffey, Jr.

Postby garf112 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:12 am

J35J wrote:What are you talking about...Harper has been a huge disappointment...he's only got 47 RBI.


He has SIX more triples than Griffey did, though. So, clearly, he is going to be a super duper star. Griffey didn't even have ANY triples!!!1!!!
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Re: Harper and Griffey, Jr.

Postby kab21 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:34 am

I think it's more coincidence than anything that their stats match up and don't this is any reason for potential stardom for Harper.

I think he's had an alright season statistically but alright at age 19 is incredible. The ugly that is hidden in his stats is that he's swinging at a lot of balls outside of the strikezone (35%) and he has a relatively high swstr% (12%). these aren't unusual for a young player but they are things that he is going to need to improve in the next few seasons (most young players struggle with these). Just to be clear that even though I pointed out a few negatives I think he's headed to superstardom. It seems that some view any negative comments about their favorite young player as an attack.
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Re: Harper and Griffey, Jr.

Postby jorgesca » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:35 pm

kab21 wrote:I think it's more coincidence than anything that their stats match up and don't this is any reason for potential stardom for Harper.

I think he's had an alright season statistically but alright at age 19 is incredible. The ugly that is hidden in his stats is that he's swinging at a lot of balls outside of the strikezone (35%) and he has a relatively high swstr% (12%). these aren't unusual for a young player but they are things that he is going to need to improve in the next few seasons (most young players struggle with these). Just to be clear that even though I pointed out a few negatives I think he's headed to superstardom. It seems that some view any negative comments about their favorite young player as an attack.


Not that I'm not agreeing as I think he would need to work on that, but I think the players I see him more comparable to are Stanton and Bruce and both have pretty similar rates.

Is there a way to determine if his BABIP should be higher based on his LD%? I think based on his bated balls profile he should have a higher BABIP but don't know how to determine it.
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