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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby HOOTIE » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:36 pm

rjforlife wrote:Miguel Cabrera hit a HR in a World Series game. Did Trout hit any World Series HR? Nope! Debate over!


And was pretty much value less the rest of the way.
If you're one dimensional, you better hit, hit, hit.
SF showed the value of defense and base running.
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby SpecialFNK » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:41 pm

lastingsgriller wrote:The MVP award is for the MOST VALUABLE player.

are you arguing for Cabrera and against Trout? or for Trout and against Cabrera?
one could say Cabrera was more valuable because the Tigers made the playoffs and Trout's team the Angels did not. but you could argue that Trout was valuable because before he arrived in LA near the end of April, the Angels were struggling.
but even then you're talking about teams, where even with a star player many of the other players are why a team makes the playoffs.
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby GiantsFan14 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:41 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
rjforlife wrote:Miguel Cabrera hit a HR in a World Series game. Did Trout hit any World Series HR? Nope! Debate over!


And was pretty much value less the rest of the way.
If you're one dimensional, you better hit, hit, hit.
SF showed the value of defense and base running.


In a very small sample of watching MCab play 3rd base, it shocks me that players don't just continuously bunt at him.
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby jfg » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:48 pm

Are Gold Glove voters the same people who vote for MVP? Because there's no chance for Trout to win MVP if voters aren't even recognizing him as a Gold Glove winner.
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby GiantsFan14 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:08 am

jfg wrote:Are Gold Glove voters the same people who vote for MVP? Because there's no chance for Trout to win MVP if voters aren't even recognizing him as a Gold Glove winner.


nope. managers and coaches vote for gold gloves. absolutely insane that trout got robbed of the gold glove though.
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AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby lastingsgriller » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:19 am

SpecialFNK wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:The MVP award is for the MOST VALUABLE player.

are you arguing for Cabrera and against Trout? or for Trout and against Cabrera?
one could say Cabrera was more valuable because the Tigers made the playoffs and Trout's team the Angels did not. but you could argue that Trout was valuable because before he arrived in LA near the end of April, the Angels were struggling.
but even then you're talking about teams, where even with a star player many of the other players are why a team makes the playoffs.



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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby Izenhart » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:23 am

Anyone know when the awards for MVP are announced?
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby ayebatter » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:29 am

Izenhart wrote:Anyone know when the awards for MVP are announced?


http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/awards/y2012/index.jsp
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby Izenhart » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:07 pm

ayebatter wrote:
Izenhart wrote:Anyone know when the awards for MVP are announced?


http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/awards/y2012/index.jsp


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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:17 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
rjforlife wrote:Miguel Cabrera hit a HR in a World Series game. Did Trout hit any World Series HR? Nope! Debate over!


And was pretty much value less the rest of the way.
If you're one dimensional, you better hit, hit, hit.
SF showed the value of defense and base running.


In a very small sample of watching MCab play 3rd base, it shocks me that players don't just continuously bunt at him.


Because it's not actually that easy to lay down a perfect bunt down the 3rd base line. There would be too many cases of the pitcher or catcher fielding it to make it worthwhile.
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