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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby thatguy27 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:08 am

thatguy27 wrote:And understand none of this is to say that I'm dismissing what you're saying. I hear you loud and clear, and I don't disagree that it's important to temper our expectations. I'm just a big believer in his ability to become a top tier pitcher. Perhaps I am overly optimistic, but I just feel strongly that Harvey is the real deal and believe he has the ability to eventually be an annual CY contender.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby kab21 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:26 am

thatguy27 wrote:Well, I didn't say he'll easily post ace like numbers based solely on his first three starts... I said IF he can gut it out against the tough teams like he showed he could last season, and continue to dominate against the weaker offenses, THEN he'll easily post ace like numbers. Now, I know you could say that about any pitcher, so it's not exactly enlightening (for lack of a better word--there is a better word but it escapes me). But the point I was trying to make is that there is evidence that suggests he has the ability to do just that. I'm not saying it's a certainly, but I definitely like his chances.


I think we feel the same way long term but dominating 3 times against weak teams doesn't even mean that he will dominate against weak teams all season. He has a history of iffy control in the minors and there are going to be games where he's missing. Again I liken this to Matt Moore (similar K upside and control issues) who started last season with 3 terrible games and people were talking about cutting him. Harvey is going to have those games but he started out amazing so people will be more forgiving. Another concern would be fatigue as the season goes on. He hasn't pitched a full season yet.

I feel like I'm a hater in this thread but I'm absolutely nuts about Harvey. I made a bold move to get him last year and so far it's working for both teams.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby garf112 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:41 pm

By the time everybody agrees that he is an ace, he will be in the hall of fame. He is legit. Give it up haters.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby exm » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:43 pm

Is he eligble for ROY?
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby bigh0rt » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:45 pm

exm wrote:Is he eligble for ROY?

It'll go nice next to his Cy Young Award.
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Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby wingman3110 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Pretty sure I took Niese over Harvey. Damn.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby exm » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:05 pm

wingman3110 wrote:Pretty sure I took Niese over Harvey. Damn.


Seriously? Niese is good, but Harvey always had 'ace' written all over him.

So Harvey is outpitching Strasburg now.... I think we're looking at a top 6 SP for 2014, folks
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby wingman3110 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:13 pm

exm wrote:
wingman3110 wrote:Pretty sure I took Niese over Harvey. Damn.


Seriously? Niese is good, but Harvey always had 'ace' written all over him.

So Harvey is outpitching Strasburg now.... I think we're looking at a top 6 SP for 2014, folks


Take that back, just looked. Harvey went at 137. I got Niese at 144. I don't feel as bad now ha.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby Grounded Polo » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:00 pm

garf112 wrote:By the time everybody agrees that he is an ace,

;-D
he will be in the hall of fame.

;-D
He is legit.

;-D
Give it up haters.

;-D
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby Izenhart » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:42 pm

What kind of numbers is Harvey going to end the year with? I'm thinking Chris Sale numbers from last year.
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