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Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:54 am

With news that Bautista only has some lingering inflammation and is probable to return n late August, should I accept this offer to bolster my rotation?

Give: Carlos Beltran
Get: R.A. Dickey



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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby footballisbetter.com » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:20 am

I'm still saying no. I don't see that your pitching needs bolstered. I think Beltran will be more valuable to your team.

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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby mayor quimby » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:58 am

footballisbetter.com wrote:I'm still saying no. I don't see that your pitching needs bolstered. I think Beltran will be more valuable to your team.

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I just don't understand this though. What value with Beltran bring sitting on the bench everyday once Bats is back?? AND Big Papi??? The answer is none. Bench players add no value, obviously, and an extra ace pitcher on your staff adds tremendous value.

Dickey, however, we know what he's going to do the rest of the season. To add onto reasons for which you should make this deal, Terry Collins is in serious talks about having Dickey start on short rest starting very soon, which is HUGE. Imagine having a start from Dickey almost twice a week every week for the rest of the year. That's how you win a championship.

I can't stress that this deal makes the most sense for you enough. It's an absolute no brainer.

EDIT: Holy S*** I didn't even realize that complete games are a category in your league. A guy like Dickey, who doesn't throw a pitch higher than 85 MPH, eats complete games for breakfast.

DICKEY!!!
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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby ATLbraves » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:02 pm

I like this trade if this is the only ace pitcher you can get. I'm not a big believer in Dickey the ROS, but he should be more valuable for you down the stretch then a guy sitting on your bench.
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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby mayor quimby » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:54 pm

Speak of the devil - CG gem from Dickey today. 10 k's.

If you don't pull the trigger soon I wouldn't be surprised if this deal doesn't get done.
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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby footballisbetter.com » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:58 pm

Quimby makes good points. Maybe I was too harsh.
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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:52 pm

Made the deal!

Appreciate all the input, Pro and Con. Always good to weigh every angle before rushing into anything.

NOW, if anyone is still reading this post, any suggestions as to a 2 for 1 that makes sense? I will have this dilemma, barring further injury:

-Machado can be dropped when Papi returns (i hope on Sunday)
-Pagan can be dropped when Hanson returns (supposedly Aug 15)
-Who to drop when Bonifacio returns?
-Who to drop when Bautista returns?

It seems I'd have to drop Greg Holland for one of those last two, which is bad enough. But THEN what do I do? As is, I don't want to drop anyone further.
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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby germani40 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:00 pm

I wouldnt do it. If you are looking to make a move for your pitching aim higher than Dickey. People have said he always struggles early in the season because its not a good pitch for cold weather. Being in New York the fantasy playoffs will be cold. Just a little thing I wouldnt do the deal. Aim higher if you need to. Throw Beltran and a middle tier pitcher for a stud. Or you could maybe try to go Upton straight up for a stud pitcher on a rebuilding team.


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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby mayor quimby » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:07 pm

germani40 wrote:I wouldnt do it. If you are looking to make a move for your pitching aim higher than Dickey. People have said he always struggles early in the season because its not a good pitch for cold weather. Being in New York the fantasy playoffs will be cold. Just a little thing I wouldnt do the deal. Aim higher if you need to. Throw Beltran and a middle tier pitcher for a stud. Or you could maybe try to go Upton straight up for a stud pitcher on a rebuilding team.


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Lol, ignore this.

You made the right move.
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Re: Deal for Dickey? WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:20 pm

germani40 wrote:I wouldnt do it. If you are looking to make a move for your pitching aim higher than Dickey. People have said he always struggles early in the season because its not a good pitch for cold weather. Being in New York the fantasy playoffs will be cold. Just a little thing I wouldnt do the deal. Aim higher if you need to. Throw Beltran and a middle tier pitcher for a stud. Or you could maybe try to go Upton straight up for a stud pitcher on a rebuilding team.


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I see your logic and it's sound. But I made the move because there's literally nobody better available and I think even in late September New York sees its share of balmy days (at least when I lived there up thru 2008). Now, late October, that's a different story!
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