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Postby ATLbraves » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:18 am

The guy who owns Sabathia is wanting too high of a pick along with Viciedo, so I am moving on to a different trade.

Should I trade my Dayan Viciedo and a draft pick for Ryan Vogelsong? I will prob have to give a pick in the 9th-12th round range. What do you think would be a fair pick to include?

Viciedo can be kept in the 18th round next year, so he has good keeper status in our league. Sabathia would not be a good keeper since he was drafted so high. I just feel like I need to shore up my pitching staff for the playoffs since I have been hit by some injuries, and Sale is going to be shutdown at some point.


12 team h2h keeper league (7 keepers) 16 cat R HR RBI SB K TB AVG OBP IP W L SV BB K ERA WHIP
2 DL spots

Roster:
C Mike Napoli (Tex - C,1B)
1B Prince Fielder (Det - 1B)
2B Jason Kipnis (Cle - 2B) *
3B Mark Trumbo (LAA - 1B,3B,OF) *
SS Jose Reyes (Mia - SS)
OF Andrew McCutchen (Pit - OF)
OF Bryce Harper (Was - OF) *
OF Ryan Ludwick (Cin - OF)
Util Shane Victorino (LAD - OF)
SP Yovani Gallardo (Mil - SP)
SP Chris Sale (CWS - SP,RP) *
RP Huston Street (SD - RP)
RP Chris Perez (Cle - RP)
P Johnny Cueto (Cin - SP) *
P Santiago Casilla (SF - RP)
P Tommy Hanson (Atl - SP)
BN Dayan Viciedo (CWS - OF)
BN Alex Rodriguez (NYY - 3B)DL
BN David Ortiz (Bos - 1B)DL *
BN Yu Darvish (Tex - SP)
BN Matt Harvey (NYM - SP)
DL Brandon Beachy (Atl - SP) DL *
DL Michael Pineda (NYY - SP) DL


* - current keepers
keeper rules - player has to be kept 2 rounds ahead of where they are drafted




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Re: Viciedo and pick for Vogelsong? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby Skimo77 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:00 pm

I definitely think you should make that deal if you can. Your weak in the OF but your starters could use some help too.. I'm not sure what draft pick you should offer though, but it seems like a smart move.
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Re: Viciedo and pick for Vogelsong? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby nyr199435 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:17 pm

Obviously the lower the pick you offer the more I like the deal. Viciedo straight up for Vogelsong is a no brainer for me, especially for your squad. If you can swing it with an 11th or 12th rounder, it's still a no-brainer. 9th or 10th pick is a little more iffy, but you could use the SP help.

Long story short: I'd do it no matter what, but how much I like the deal depends on how high of a pick you end up having to give up.
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Postby sigriffey » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:33 pm

Yes, Viciedo way too inconsistent. Do this for a major shot in the arm this year.
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Postby StealingHome » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:39 pm

Thanks for help with mine. I like it. I would see if you could swing a 11th round pick.
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Postby footballisbetter.com » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:41 pm

I like it. Losing Viciedo doesn't hurt you at all for this season, and Vogelsong will be a nice pitching upgrade to help you down the stretch.
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Re: Viciedo and pick for Vogelsong? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby lyons595 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:48 pm

I'd do the deal, but we're talking about Vogelsong...Not Verlander. For some reason, I just can't see him being this good for long. But I am STRONGLY of the opinion that SP can be overrated and can be replaced easily (I love to stream/play matchups). I wouldn't include any draft picks and see what he says. If no, then go with as low a pick as possible. Its hard for me to advise you on what round as my league doesn't trade picks so I don't have a good feel for what a 9th, 12th, or 20th rounder is worth.

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Re: Viciedo and pick for Vogelsong? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby Element » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:56 pm

lyons595 wrote:I'd do the deal, but we're talking about Vogelsong...Not Verlander. For some reason, I just can't see him being this good for long. But I am STRONGLY of the opinion that SP can be overrated and can be replaced easily (I love to stream/play matchups). I wouldn't include any draft picks and see what he says. If no, then go with as low a pick as possible. Its hard for me to advise you on what round as my league doesn't trade picks so I don't have a good feel for what a 9th, 12th, or 20th rounder is worth.

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Re: Viciedo and pick for Vogelsong? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby jnormy » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:05 pm

lyons595 wrote:I'd do the deal, but we're talking about Vogelsong...Not Verlander. For some reason, I just can't see him being this good for long. But I am STRONGLY of the opinion that SP can be overrated and can be replaced easily (I love to stream/play matchups). I wouldn't include any draft picks and see what he says. If no, then go with as low a pick as possible. Its hard for me to advise you on what round as my league doesn't trade picks so I don't have a good feel for what a 9th, 12th, or 20th rounder is worth.

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This... start with one-for-one and if he doesn't go for a straight-up deal, move on to adding the lowest possible pick (12th?) you'd be willing to give up. Not sure I'd go much lower than that, but then I like Viciedo for his power potential more than most folks do.

Thanks for the help with mine.
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