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Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby fierro33 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:58 pm

would u give up rizzo for dunn in a non keeper?

with an option to swap hill for phillips (rizzo,hill for dunn,phillips)

shallow 10 team non keeper h2h 5x5


C Yadier Molina
1B Prince Fielder
2B Aaron Hill
3B Miguel Cabrera
SS Asdrubal Cabrera
OF Michael Bourne
OF Drew Stubbs
OF Justin Upton
Util Anthony Rizzo
Desmond Jennings
Giancarlo Stanton
Joey Votto DL

Justin Verlander
Jerad Weaver
Zack Greinke
Cliff Lee
Jake Peavy
Madison Bumgarner
Dan Haren
Wandy Rodriguez

Papelbon
Frieri
Heath Bell
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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby dcmove2003 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:52 pm

In a non-keeper, this is pretty close, but I like Rizzo more as he will not drag down your average, but will still deliver power and RBIs, like Dunn. In the end, it comes down to what categories you need to focus on to win this year though.

I also see you have Votto, so when he returns, you won't even have a spot to play either Dunn or Rizzo, so it's a very short term fill in, making it even less critical which guy you hold on to.

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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby FantasySportsMaven » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:14 pm

No, I woudn't do it. IIRC, Dunn is also in the midst of a HR slump too?

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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby RyeWhiskey » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:18 pm

I would not. Rizzo is a better 5x5 contributor than Dunn. BUT since you have Votto coming back (taking your Util spot), Dunn is more valuable to you as he can play OF. So, rather than accept this deal, I would see if you can shop Rizzo for a better OF to replace Stubbs.
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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby fierro33 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:42 pm

dunn does not have OF elig in my league....also dunn just hit a couple of homers recently

i can also get phillips for hill in this deal......so it would be:

hill
rizzo

for

phillips
dunn
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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby mayor quimby » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:40 pm

I like Dunn a lot more here.

Dunn is a proven commodity. He's going to hit 40 maybe even 50 bombs this year. Rizzo won't come close for ROS stats.

Rizzo hasn't done much and to me it doesn't look good.

In a non keeper, this is a no brainer for me.
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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby exm » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:59 pm

mayor quimby wrote:I like Dunn a lot more here.

Dunn is a proven commodity. He's going to hit 40 maybe even 50 bombs this year. Rizzo won't come close for ROS stats.

Rizzo hasn't done much and to me it doesn't look good.

In a non keeper, this is a no brainer for me.


Rizzo hasn't done much? How about this:
Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2012 CHC 26 101 13 32 4 0 6 15 4 12 1 1 .317 .349 .535 .884

Dunn might give you more HRs, but rizzo will come close and have a much better .AVG. I would not do this.
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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby k.k. » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:20 pm

mayor quimby wrote:Rizzo hasn't done much and to me it doesn't look good.

In a non keeper, this is a no brainer for me.

Not sure why in the world you would suggest this. Rizzo has been pretty good since getting called up. He's got good value, and the AVG won't hurt you like it will with Dunn.
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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby mayor quimby » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:52 pm

exm wrote:
mayor quimby wrote:I like Dunn a lot more here.

Dunn is a proven commodity. He's going to hit 40 maybe even 50 bombs this year. Rizzo won't come close for ROS stats.

Rizzo hasn't done much and to me it doesn't look good.

In a non keeper, this is a no brainer for me.


Rizzo hasn't done much? How about this:
Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2012 CHC 26 101 13 32 4 0 6 15 4 12 1 1 .317 .349 .535 .884

Dunn might give you more HRs, but rizzo will come close and have a much better .AVG. I would not do this.


Those numbers don't impress me one bit. I'd say maybe if they were ridiculous numbers, but they aren't they are average or even below that. Shall I post the numbers that he posted for San Diego last year? Anyway, Rizzo is an overrated prospect who had very good numbers in the minor leagues.

Dunn has nearly 400 career bombs to his name with a very good chance of beating his single season record this year.

If you're trying to tell me that a pretty good average is enough to keep rizzo, an unproven overrated 6th round pick, around in lieu of a potential 45-50 HR season, that is laughable.

I will bet anything that Dunn has considerably better numbers ROS.

Don't believe the hype people, believe the reality.
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Re: Rizzo for Dunn whir

Postby exm » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:10 pm

mayor quimby wrote:
exm wrote:
mayor quimby wrote:I like Dunn a lot more here.

Dunn is a proven commodity. He's going to hit 40 maybe even 50 bombs this year. Rizzo won't come close for ROS stats.

Rizzo hasn't done much and to me it doesn't look good.

In a non keeper, this is a no brainer for me.


Rizzo hasn't done much? How about this:
Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2012 CHC 26 101 13 32 4 0 6 15 4 12 1 1 .317 .349 .535 .884

Dunn might give you more HRs, but rizzo will come close and have a much better .AVG. I would not do this.


Those numbers don't impress me one bit. I'd say maybe if they were ridiculous numbers, but they aren't they are average or even below that. Shall I post the numbers that he posted for San Diego last year? Anyway, Rizzo is an overrated prospect who had very good numbers in the minor leagues.

Dunn has nearly 400 career bombs to his name with a very good chance of beating his single season record this year.

If you're trying to tell me that a pretty good average is enough to keep rizzo, an unproven overrated 6th round pick, around in lieu of a potential 45-50 HR season, that is laughable.

I will bet anything that Dunn has considerably better numbers ROS.

Don't believe the hype people, believe the reality.


With 101AB these numbers don't impress you? Reality looks pretty good to me... Last year's or minor numbers don't count IMO. What counts are his 2012 Major League numbers and I think his numbers are really, really good. Maybe we live on different planets - no offense.
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