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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby jeffmerk » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:39 am

Probably whoever is healthier to start the season.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby Element » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:37 pm

Internally, I get the feeling that they are pulling for Santos.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby Montana168 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:55 am

Looks like Kenley Jansen is healthy and good to go. Per Rotoworld:

"Kenley Jansen (heart) has been off blood thinners since November and has begun his throwing program.

Jansen underwent a heart ablation in October and has been told by doctors that he should have no further issues. "I'm doing well," Jansen said. "This is going to take care of it, no more problems. Put it in God's hands now." The right-hander has thrown one bullpen session already and will be ready to roll at the start of spring training. He's expected to set up for Brandon League this season."

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6105/kenley-jansen

He will likely be a popular sleeper saves candidate again with Brandon League starting the season as the closer. Although I would not be surprised to see Jansen have an ADP higher than League, similar to last year when Jansen was getting drafted ahead of Guerra pre-season.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby Skin Blues » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:05 pm

I like League a little better this year than I liked Guerra last year. Jansen is still much better but League has a good track record whereas Guerra was just bad. Still, if he blows a few saves in a row then his leash will be cut quicker than the average closer.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby jeffmerk » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:45 pm

One of the numbers crunchers at Patton&Co suggests that League's ERA should be increasing, based on his 2012 peripherals.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby Montana168 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:25 pm

Here is a great in-depth FanGraphs article that compares League and Jansen:

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index. ... dominance/

Some of the most important stats/observations--in my opinion--in the article is that League flat out lost the closers job due to inefficiency in the role to Wilhelmson in Seattle (2012). Also, the only reason League was anointed the closer in the first place in Seattle (2011) was because David Aardsma got injured.

The stats show that League has a high walk rate, with a low K rate--not a good combination. Last year, he had a 2.1% HR/FB ratio--a stat that is unsustainable. Yes, he had a great 2011 season where he had 37 saves, but that successful season looks to be fueled by the 1.4 BB rate--which clearly looks like the outlier in his career stats (last year had a 4+ BB rate).

In sum, don't be fooled that just because League was given big money that he has elite skills to retain the closer's role all season. The Dodgers have very high expectations with the amount of money they have spent in the past 1/2 year, and if League starts to blow a few saves in a row--which is likely to occur as it did in Seattle--expect him to have a short leash.

Also, possibly the #1 reason I believe League will have a short leash is because of Mattingly's contract. This is Mattingly's final guaranteed year under the contract; however, the team has a team option for 2014. This offseason, Mattingly asked the Dodgers to pick up the option now so that he wouldn't be a lame duck coach, but the Dodgers refused. So Mattingly's job is on the line this year, and if his team starts blow leads in the ninth inning, a change will be made quickly.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby OldEnglishZ » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:17 pm

Any potential AL-closers in the minors you guys are targeting?
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Only play deep AL-only formats.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby jeffmerk » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:20 am

OldEnglishZ wrote:Any potential AL-closers in the minors you guys are targeting?

Carter Capps and Mason Melotakis.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby SpecialFNK » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:53 pm

OldEnglishZ wrote:Any potential AL-closers in the minors you guys are targeting?


Bruce Rondon, Detroit Tigers.
looks like Joaquin Benoit wont close.
Tigers manager Jim Leyland indicated Saturday that Joaquin Benoit isn't a candidate to close because he doesn't fare well pitching on back-to-back days.
"Joaquin Benoit physically, I don't think he can do it," Leyland said. "With all due respect to Benoit, he doesn't bounce back." Benoit fared well in 2011 when pitching with no rest, but he did struggle last season, posting a 4.50 ERA and 1.41 WHIP. Leyland admitted that he doesn't "really know what I'm going to do" at closer, but it's no secret that the Tigers hope Bruce Rondon runs away with the job. "We do have some others who can do the job if he needs a break, but to me, the leading candidate is Rondon," general manager Dave Dombrowski said.



Valverde is close to signing with the Marlins.
According to Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes, the Marlins are nearing a one-year deal with Jose Valverde.
Valverde will likely operate in a setup role for Miami in front of closer Steve Cishek. The 34-year-old right-hander posted a 3.78 ERA, 1.25 WHIP and 48/27 K/BB ratio in 69 innings last season for the Tigers. He probably won't be worth grabbing in standard fantasy drafts this spring.

who closes in Miami, Valverde or Cischek?
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby SpecialFNK » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:48 pm

SpecialFNK wrote:Valverde is close to signing with the Marlins.
According to Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes, the Marlins are nearing a one-year deal with Jose Valverde.
Valverde will likely operate in a setup role for Miami in front of closer Steve Cishek. The 34-year-old right-hander posted a 3.78 ERA, 1.25 WHIP and 48/27 K/BB ratio in 69 innings last season for the Tigers. He probably won't be worth grabbing in standard fantasy drafts this spring.

who closes in Miami, Valverde or Cischek?



OR..
maybe Valverde is not yet signing with the Marlins.
Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald was told Monday that reports about the Marlins nearing a deal with free agent reliever Jose Valverde are "utterly false."
The two sides are talking, according to CBS Sports' Danny Knobler, but there is no agreement in place. Valverde, 34, registered a 3.78 ERA and 1.25 WHIP in 69 innings last season for the Tigers. It was Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes who initially reported that a deal was close.
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