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Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby HoneyNutIchiros11 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:02 pm

Another manager just offered me CarGo and Lincecum for my Holliday and Wainwright... This seems like a pretty damn good offer to me, I just want some more opinions before I make a decision.

I'm in an 8 team head to head yahoo league with 13 categories- R,H,HR,RBI,K,SB,E,XBH,IP,W,SV,K,ERA

My team is a follows:
C-Mauer
1B-Encarnation
2B-Kipnis
3B-Lawrie
SS-Desmond
OF-Braun
OF-Holliday
OF-Rasmus
Utility-David Wright
Utility-Matt Kemp
Bench-Hosmer
DL-Pedroia
SP-Weaver
SP-Strasburg
SP-Wainwright
SP-Lohse
RP-Bell
RP-Axford
Bench-Shields
DL-Morrow

Other managers team is:
C-Napoli
1B-Dunn
2B-Michael Young
3B-Youkilis
SS-Hardy
OF-CarGo
OF-Melky Cabrera
OF-Adrian Gonzales
Utility-Ortiz
Utility-Upton
DL-Longoria
SP-Lincecum
SP-Nova
SP-Lester
SP-Greinke
RP-Papelbon
RP-Hammel
Bench-Dickey
Bench-Garza
DL-Leubke

Is there something I could add to his offer as a counter offer? Or should I take the original offer?
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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby MurrayKy » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:15 pm

I might take it, though its not a clear cut as you may believe it to be.

Wainwright is due for some serious improvement, he'll be much better than his stats are right now. That's pretty well-known. Lincecum, on the other hand, is quite the risk with his fastball being slowed so much. He's not as bad as he's doing now, but he likely won't be back to his old ways, in my opinion. So that's a downgrade.

CarGo, on the other hand, could be a top outfielder for years to come. Great power and average there. Holliday is good but it's not close. That's a big upgrade.

Rosters aside, I would take this. However, this trade seems to weaken your pitching staff and strengthen an outfield that is already pretty strong (Braun and Kemp are probably the top 2 outfielders in the MLB). So if you want to do that, go ahead. That's all the advice I can give.
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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby HoneyNutIchiros11 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:50 pm

I'm very partial towards Wainwright too, I've just been waiting for him to break out of his funk and he's showing that he's pretty close to doing that now.

Who could I switch out for wainwright and still keep it fair? Lohse+ another? Shields?

And does anyone else have any thoughts? As always, I'll help you out in return
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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby AroundTheFur922 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:04 pm

I concur with Murray. This deal is not as clear-cut as you may believe. You get the best player overall in CarGo, but you are truly rolling the dice with Timmy Jim. Close call but I'd stick with Holliday/Wainwright.
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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby wazzeus » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:31 pm

You're getting the best player (by far) and the worst (by far). I'll take the best player every time; in fact, I'd probably pull the trigger even if it was just CarGo for Holliday and Wainwright, the latter of whom I see as a relatively low-value throw-in given his inconsistency and struggles.
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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby kidsilk » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:26 pm

I'd take CarGo any day.

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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby HoneyNutIchiros11 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:29 pm

I rejected it but left a message saying that I'm still thinking about it and if there was any other ideas for a trade then fire away.

I'm still hesitant to give up wainwright and I'd much rather trade someone else first. If I offer shields instead of wainwright would I be giving up more than if I were to take the original offer?
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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby jnb125 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:12 pm

stick with what u have. Lincy's value = poop right now, and I wouldn't pay anything for him until he strings 2-4 good starts together. if he can do that, then the trade would seem more fair.


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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby HoneyNutIchiros11 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:21 pm

Bump... Thanks for the help so far guys, some more opinions would be great though!

So I'm trying to come up with a counter offer for the original trade in my first post on the thread, and what I've come up with is swapping out wainwright for Shields so it'll be Holliday and shields for CarGo and Lincecum.

Another I was thinking about offering, it's probably a stretch though (so some help here would be awesome!), was strasburg rasmus axford and shields for CarGo lincecum papelbon and Greinke.

Is that a stupid idea or too one sided in my favor??
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Re: Is this offer a no brainier?!?!

Postby argh33 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:26 pm

Cargo for sure. I think Tim will bounce back from August to September, keep him on the bench till he proves it

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