Syfo-Dyas wrote:I guess after they got together, decided that 3rd base ump made a bad call, it was no catch, but the bad call made Prado to go back to 1st, so he deserves 2nd base. But thats what all we want. Get the calls right, and if you screw up, than correct it. Thats why everyone cries video replay on everything. Now they got it right at the end for a change. Thats why Prado got 2nd base I guess.
Yea no kidding, but that doesn't automatically award Prado a free base while he's wandering between first and second base. Dude was tagger. Catch or trap if you're tagged between the bases you're out. It was an awful call. Not the change to a trap, which was correct, but the terrible error on handling the base runner.
Prado did not get awarded any base IMO. As I said, Prado went back to 1st because of the bad call. if the trap would been called correctly in the first place he was already at 2nd so he was safe there. So probably after the bad call they decided no further action should count. I don't know any rules that allows umps to do this, but surely it's the right thing to do.
He wasn't awarded a base, he was awarded being safe when by all rules of the game he should have been ruled out. If the initial call was an out, then he needs to be standing on first base, not meandering in between the bases, arguing the call. I could see the argument if he was standing on first and the ruling was overturned to be a trap, and they sent him to second; but he wasn't. He was standing between first and second base, and was tagged. The right call was to call him out. It was botched horribly.
bigh0rt wrote:Yea no kidding, but that doesn't automatically award Prado a free base while he's wandering between first and second base. Dude was tagger. Catch or trap if you're tagged between the bases you're out. It was an awful call. Not the change to a trap, which was correct, but the terrible error on handling the base runner.
Prado did not get awarded any base IMO. As I said, Prado went back to 1st because of the bad call. if the trap would been called correctly in the first place he was already at 2nd so he was safe there. So probably after the bad call they decided no further action should count. I don't know any rules that allows umps to do this, but surely it's the right thing to do.
He wasn't awarded a base, he was awarded being safe when by all rules of the game he should have been ruled out. If the initial call was an out, then he needs to be standing on first base, not meandering in between the bases, arguing the call. I could see the argument if he was standing on first and the ruling was overturned to be a trap, and they sent him to second; but he wasn't. He was standing between first and second base, and was tagged. The right call was to call him out. It was botched horribly.
He was between 2nd and 3rd when the call was made. Than retouched 2nd and went towards 1st arguing the whole way.
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Syfo-Dyas wrote:Prado did not get awarded any base IMO. As I said, Prado went back to 1st because of the bad call. if the trap would been called correctly in the first place he was already at 2nd so he was safe there. So probably after the bad call they decided no further action should count. I don't know any rules that allows umps to do this, but surely it's the right thing to do.
He wasn't awarded a base, he was awarded being safe when by all rules of the game he should have been ruled out. If the initial call was an out, then he needs to be standing on first base, not meandering in between the bases, arguing the call. I could see the argument if he was standing on first and the ruling was overturned to be a trap, and they sent him to second; but he wasn't. He was standing between first and second base, and was tagged. The right call was to call him out. It was botched horribly.
He was between 2nd and 3rd when the call was made. Than retouched 2nd and went towards 1st arguing the whole way.
So I'm glad you agree he should have been called out on the play.
bigh0rt wrote:He wasn't awarded a base, he was awarded being safe when by all rules of the game he should have been ruled out. If the initial call was an out, then he needs to be standing on first base, not meandering in between the bases, arguing the call. I could see the argument if he was standing on first and the ruling was overturned to be a trap, and they sent him to second; but he wasn't. He was standing between first and second base, and was tagged. The right call was to call him out. It was botched horribly.
He was between 2nd and 3rd when the call was made. Than retouched 2nd and went towards 1st arguing the whole way.
So I'm glad you agree he should have been called out on the play.
I did not. I don't know all the rules, so by rules he might be called out on the tag, or might be safe on an appeal play. Anyway it's an interesting situation.
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bigh0rt wrote:Yea no kidding, but that doesn't automatically award Prado a free base while he's wandering between first and second base. Dude was tagger. Catch or trap if you're tagged between the bases you're out. It was an awful call. Not the change to a trap, which was correct, but the terrible error on handling the base runner.
Prado did not get awarded any base IMO. As I said, Prado went back to 1st because of the bad call. if the trap would been called correctly in the first place he was already at 2nd so he was safe there. So probably after the bad call they decided no further action should count. I don't know any rules that allows umps to do this, but surely it's the right thing to do.
He wasn't awarded a base, he was awarded being safe when by all rules of the game he should have been ruled out. If the initial call was an out, then he needs to be standing on first base, not meandering in between the bases, arguing the call. I could see the argument if he was standing on first and the ruling was overturned to be a trap, and they sent him to second; but he wasn't. He was standing between first and second base, and was tagged. The right call was to call him out. It was botched horribly.
Syfo-Dyas wrote:Prado did not get awarded any base IMO. As I said, Prado went back to 1st because of the bad call. if the trap would been called correctly in the first place he was already at 2nd so he was safe there. So probably after the bad call they decided no further action should count. I don't know any rules that allows umps to do this, but surely it's the right thing to do.
He wasn't awarded a base, he was awarded being safe when by all rules of the game he should have been ruled out. If the initial call was an out, then he needs to be standing on first base, not meandering in between the bases, arguing the call. I could see the argument if he was standing on first and the ruling was overturned to be a trap, and they sent him to second; but he wasn't. He was standing between first and second base, and was tagged. The right call was to call him out. It was botched horribly.
This. The right call wasn't made.
So the right call is to get it wrong? Brilliant.
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mweir145 wrote:There's this thing called video review these days. I hear it's all the rage in the other sports.
Really? Wow.
And then there's a sport like this that's living a century in the past, which treats umpire error as if it's a part of the game rather than the unfortunate, needless mistakes that they actually are.
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by Syfo-Dyas » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:54 pm 
