Cliff Lee...What to do...What to do

[Skin Blues]

I'm just gonna cross my fingers and hope he turns into the #1 fantasy pitcher I thought he was coming into the season.

[thatguy27]

Not just posting this because of his start tonight....Just dont get alot of time to log on sadly.

At one point I had a great staff 14 team league Lee, C.C, Halladay, Colby Lewis, Holland, Gio Gonzalez and Bum...I made moves to get Halladay, Gio and Bum...then moved C.C to kinda correct the offense and pitching...but most of them are hurt now.

I want to move Lee bad...i dont see him improving ( most nights its the team)...

Has anyone moved him? or kept him? Im trying to get Trout and Aviles for Lee and Alexi Ramirez...but im willing to switch Jeter for Ramirez to get this done....

Im i going to crazy or whats going on here?

my season: Kemp, Halladay, Bono, Berkman, Lewis, and Holland DL!

If you can get that deal done do it!!!

Agreed, even though I fully expect Lee to turn it around, if you can get Trout for him and what amounts to at worst a lateral move at SS, if not a slight upgrade), do it yesterday. Trout is legit and here to stay, and at worst top 30 going forward with the potential to remain top 10.

Brief hijack:
(crazy Trout stat: trout is 3rd in WAR despite playing in just 55 games so far compared to most everyone elses' 70-75 games--if Trout had played in 76 games like Votto, who is the current WAR leader at 4.8, Trout's pro-rated WAR of 5.7 would blow everyone elses' out of the water.)

[Canadian]

I couldn't take it anymore....I'm sure he will turn it around but the Phillies are just not as good anymore.

I traded

Cliff Lee
Derek Jeter
Adam Laroche
Gerado Parra
Alexei Ramirez

For

Zack Grienke
Stephen Drew
Michael Morse
Jason Kipnis
Dexter Fowler

I think its a good trade I'm in 2nd and he's 9th in a 16 team league. I also had to upgrade at SB

[Tennessee Jed]

wow you made out like a bandit with that trade

[Canadian]

Lee with a stellar start plus finally got a WIN

Baseball gods playing with me this season!

[converge241]

I bought on him wherever I could when the price was low

not though just because he finally got the W he did have some bad starts, many thing the winless issue got in his head who knows if you can measure that but if it was in his head ad hes got it now and utley is back, howard about to be back perhaps they play a little better and more run support etc.

Wins in general are many times out of their control. Just as likely to rattle off 10 straight W decisions as the winless ones and it doesnt necessarily matter how well he or others pitch.

Losses are more in their control and its not like he was piling those up either

[WaCougMBS]

Just pulled him for Fowler and Hellickson in H2HWS and did a little jig - here's to Cliff in the second half