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Postby Madbomber » Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:09 am

A lot of posts have said Jake Peavy could be a good sleeper for this year. What is it about him? Is he basically a fifth starter. I am in a H2H league is he worth a roster spot over willis, garcia, or V padilla.
;-D :-t What do you think?
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Postby inkubus » Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:10 am

Garcia probably, but not the other two.
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Postby Madbomber » Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:13 am

What does peavy do that makes him so attractive?
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Postby moochman » Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:08 am

He did finish nicely last year and the Padre team is on the upswing. In his last 11 starts he was 4-3 with 58 Ks in 66 innings with a 3.02 ERA. He may just be on the brink of a breakout season.
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Postby DGroundhog » Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:25 am

I liked Peavy last year, and I like him even better this year. I missed out on him on 2 of my 3 teams unfortunately, but he is a guy I'd draft after the 10th round on just about any team I owned.
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Postby mkooljr1 » Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:55 am

Very overrated this year. Everyone's saying breakout this year, nope, don't see it. And i've been a Peavy fan, so no bias here. Declining K rate, increasing walk rate, a HR/9 of 1.5 (!!!), and he was lucky on hits per balls in play. His 2nd half was a little better than his 1st, but not as much as his 2nd half era would seem to indicate. On the whole, if you take a look at the whole season's stats, it doesn't add up to an inevitable breakout in 2004. That declining K rate is scary, and potentially points to trouble ahead.
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Postby giants8307 » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:01 am

Petco park is a pitchers park, according to preliminary reports. I'd take a chance on a san diego pitcher this year. I took him as my 6th starter, so no big deal if he flops. Also, when I was examining his stats, it looked like he only had a bad ERA in july.
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Postby hybrid » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:03 am

mkooljr1 wrote:Very overrated this year. Everyone's saying breakout this year, nope, don't see it. And i've been a Peavy fan, so no bias here. Declining K rate, increasing walk rate, a HR/9 of 1.5 (!!!), and he was lucky on hits per balls in play. His 2nd half was a little better than his 1st, but not as much as his 2nd half era would seem to indicate. On the whole, if you take a look at the whole season's stats, it doesn't add up to an inevitable breakout in 2004. That declining K rate is scary, and potentially points to trouble ahead.


haven't you heard that you can't base everything on mere statistics? also it seems if you were a big peavy fan you would know why his K rate went down. his pitch counts were high as account of trying to strike out hitters, so in a move that he made that shows his progress as a pitcher that not only has great stuff but also thinks. he went ahead and didn't try to strike out every batter, he let them but the ball in play more to have better pitch counts. listen you just can't look at stats, if you do you will miss lots of things. the fact is he is a great young pitcher, anyone knows that who has seen his stuff, and now he is thinking more about counts and hitters. personally i agree w/ most that think he will have a great season.
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Postby mkooljr1 » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:22 am

giants8307 wrote:Petco park is a pitchers park, according to preliminary reports.


Uhh, Qualcomm was a pitcher's park too. Even if Petco IS a pitcher's park, it won't be as friendly as Qualcomm was.

hybrid wrote:haven't you heard that you can't base everything on mere statistics? also it seems if you were a big peavy fan you would know why his K rate went down. his pitch counts were high as account of trying to strike out hitters, so in a move that he made that shows his progress as a pitcher that not only has great stuff but also thinks. he went ahead and didn't try to strike out every batter, he let them but the ball in play more to have better pitch counts. listen you just can't look at stats, if you do you will miss lots of things.


Ok, so let's pretend you're right and he stopped trying to K hitters. So tell me this- how come his walk rate increased? You'd think by letting the hitters put the ball into play more, he'd have better control, right? And yes, i've heard you can't base everything on statistics, but that's usually spouted by people like you who have no idea what stats to look at and what each stats means. Which is exactly what you proved in your post, you don't understand how to use stats.
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Postby LBJackal » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:29 am

Sure he's good. But every MLB pitcher is good. Just because you watched him play doesn't make him any better. He hasn't put up very good numbers, and him trying to cut down on K's isn't exactly beneficial for a fantasy team. Doesn't have a good WHIP, K's, ERA, or anything for that matter. I'll pass, and take players who have shown potential. It's good to take players before they blossom, but usually that involves guys with a low WHIP which indicates a lower ERA in the future, or a good K/9. He has neither. What makes him different from other pitchers his age with the same mediocre stats?
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