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Re: Who is the next Byrce Harper/Mike Trout?

Postby kellythemick » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:29 am

thedude wrote:Well there are no Harpers or Trouts.

For instance, Baseball America rated Harper 80/80 and Trout 75/80 in last seasons guide. This year the highest rating given is 70/80.

The player who is most likely to be a stud hitter is Oscar Taveras.

If you want a stud pitcher who is likely to break out this season, look at Bundy or Gerrit Cole.

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Re: Who is the next Byrce Harper/Mike Trout?

Postby HighHeater » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:00 pm

thedude wrote:Well there are no Harpers or Trouts.

For instance, Baseball America rated Harper 80/80 and Trout 75/80 in last seasons guide. This year the highest rating given is 70/80.

The player who is most likely to be a stud hitter is Oscar Taveras.

If you want a stud pitcher who is likely to break out this season, look at Bundy or Gerrit Cole.


give me the kid who can put up Pedroia #'s at SS anyday in Profar
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Re: Who is the next Byrce Harper/Mike Trout?

Postby jeffmerk » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:10 pm

MaudDib wrote:
PlayingWithFire wrote:Nobody, generational talents don't show up every draft.

Really this. Unfortunately we live in an age where most top prospects get hyped like crazy and people then expect the to be HOF type players. But true HOF talents only come around every once in a while.

Crazy as this might sound but really the last guy that is a HOF type player was probably Albert Pujols. Since him there have been a lot of really good players but no one that is a lock for the HOF yet. Verlander needs to win a lot more games, Cabrera is probably on track so is Braun. Maybe I am missing someone obvious but the point is very few players come into the league and immediately succeed and put themselves in the position that Harper and Trout have.

Pujols was Baseball America's #42 prospect in 2001, Miggy was #12 in 2003 and Braun was #27 in 2007. The future studs don't always come from the tippy top of the prospect lists.
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Re: Who is the next Byrce Harper/Mike Trout?

Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:00 am

jeffmerk wrote:
MaudDib wrote:
PlayingWithFire wrote:Nobody, generational talents don't show up every draft.

Really this. Unfortunately we live in an age where most top prospects get hyped like crazy and people then expect the to be HOF type players. But true HOF talents only come around every once in a while.

Crazy as this might sound but really the last guy that is a HOF type player was probably Albert Pujols. Since him there have been a lot of really good players but no one that is a lock for the HOF yet. Verlander needs to win a lot more games, Cabrera is probably on track so is Braun. Maybe I am missing someone obvious but the point is very few players come into the league and immediately succeed and put themselves in the position that Harper and Trout have.

Pujols was Baseball America's #42 prospect in 2001, Miggy was #12 in 2003 and Braun was #27 in 2007. The future studs don't always come from the tippy top of the prospect lists.


Pujols is the exception to everything, so is Piazza. There are 2 of those guys in the last 20 years(first ballot HOF who are non elite prospects). Miguel Cabrera was horribly rushed, had he stayed in the minor leagues in 2003 like most teams would have done, he'd be no doubt one of the 2 top prospect in baseball in 2004. Make no mistake, Miggy Cabrera was an elite prospect.
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Re: Who is the next Byrce Harper/Mike Trout?

Postby jeffmerk » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:22 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:
jeffmerk wrote:
MaudDib wrote:Really this. Unfortunately we live in an age where most top prospects get hyped like crazy and people then expect the to be HOF type players. But true HOF talents only come around every once in a while.

Crazy as this might sound but really the last guy that is a HOF type player was probably Albert Pujols. Since him there have been a lot of really good players but no one that is a lock for the HOF yet. Verlander needs to win a lot more games, Cabrera is probably on track so is Braun. Maybe I am missing someone obvious but the point is very few players come into the league and immediately succeed and put themselves in the position that Harper and Trout have.

Pujols was Baseball America's #42 prospect in 2001, Miggy was #12 in 2003 and Braun was #27 in 2007. The future studs don't always come from the tippy top of the prospect lists.


Pujols is the exception to everything, so is Piazza. There are 2 of those guys in the last 20 years(first ballot HOF who are non elite prospects). Miguel Cabrera was horribly rushed, had he stayed in the minor leagues in 2003 like most teams would have done, he'd be no doubt one of the 2 top prospect in baseball in 2004. Make no mistake, Miggy Cabrera was an elite prospect.

I would say that #42 is still an elite prospect but there have been plenty of players in the top 10 over the years that have never panned out. Try to grab 6 or 7 of the top 150 every year and hope you get lucky.
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Re: Who is the next Byrce Harper/Mike Trout?

Postby Curtis Pride » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:25 pm

Much of Profar's value is tied up to his great defense at a premium position as well as his solid plate discipline.

He's unlikely to ever be a 1st round fantasy pick.

His long-term fantasy upside is a .300 hitter with 20/20 speed/power, along with a good amount of walks. He's phenomenal in real life, but not as much in fantasy.

The two names that jump out me as potentially elite/dominant minor leaguers are Miguel Sano (Twins) and Jose Fernandez (Marlins).

Sano is a power hitting 3b (though will likley be moved to OF). He does strike out too much, but he walks a good amount and his stats aren't that far away from what Stanton was doing at the same age.

Jose Fernandez is an SP for the Marlins who tore through the minors last year. I could definitely see him coming up to the majors in the mid-late summer.
Both are only 20.

But as mentioned, there is no one in the majors like Trout/Harper who will be star fantasy players in the majors as teenagers.
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