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Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby slomojo » Sat May 19, 2012 2:28 pm

I am the commissioner of my league and have a unique situation that I am not sure how to deal with. I'm trying to do what's right, but I will inevitably piss someone off.

Here's the timeline of events:

Manager 1 drafted Andy Pettitte before Pettitte was in the Yahoo! system. I couldn't roster Pettitte, and after entering everyone's teams, I sent out this email to my league:

"Also, Andy Pettitte is not in the Yahoo! system yet, so he'll be manually added to [Manager 1's] roster when possible. Or, [Manager 1] has the option of dropping the replacement (Phil Coke) for a different player."

On April 22, Manager 1 dropped Phil Coke and added Jhonny Peralta.

On April 30, Manager 2 dropped Brandon McCarthy and added Andy Pettitte.

Pettitte has pitched twice since Manager 2 picked him up:

On May 13, Pettitte pitched 6.1 innings, giving up 7 hits, 4 earned runs, 2 homeruns, walking 3 and striking out 2 in the loss.

On May 18, Pettitte, pitched 8.0 innings, giving up 4 hits, 0 earned runs, walking 1 and striking out 9 in the win.

On May 19, Manager 1 asked me to add Pettitte to his roster.

Some other things:
-Phil Coke is an inside joke in our league, so I arbitrarily picked him as a replacement player because I needed to fill Manager 1's roster after our offline draft.
-Manager 1 is a Yankee fan and clearly knew that Pettitte was pitching in the bigs when he started pitching in the bigs.
-I realize that I fucked up as commissioner by not adding Pettitte immediately when he became available.
-Manager 1 asked me if Pettitte was available yet, before he joined the Yanks. After that, he said nothing until May 19.
-Manager 2 thinks it's horse shit if he loses Pettitte.
-Manager 1 thinks it's horse shit if he doesn't get Pettitte.

What to do???
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Re: Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby fast dogs » Sat May 19, 2012 3:33 pm

On April 22, Manager 1 dropped Phil Coke and added Jhonny Peralta.
he lost rights to player when he dropped placeholder
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Re: Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby bklynkenny » Sat May 19, 2012 6:30 pm

fast dogs wrote:On April 22, Manager 1 dropped Phil Coke and added Jhonny Peralta.
he lost rights to player when he dropped placeholder

I would agree. In this league, when he dropped Phil Coke, he really dropped Andy Pettite.
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Re: Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby Goatrider » Sat May 19, 2012 6:51 pm

I agree with the majority here. It is in writing, he gets Coke/Petitte or can drop Coke to get a different player. Does your league have any precedents in a manner like this? If so, I always follow unwritten precedence when rules are unclear.

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Re: Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby Izenhart » Sun May 20, 2012 4:14 am

Goatrider wrote:I agree with the majority here. It is in writing, he gets Coke/Petitte or can drop Coke to get a different player. Does your league have any precedents in a manner like this? If so, I always follow unwritten precedence when rules are unclear.

Help? viewtopic.php?f=189&t=447320&p=3527530#p3527530


oh look he pitched 8 scoreless innings im gonna say i want him now.

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Re: Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby bigmck » Sun May 20, 2012 6:44 am

When he dropped Coke, he dropped Pettitte
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Re: Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Sun May 20, 2012 5:56 pm

bigmck wrote:When he dropped Coke, he dropped Pettitte


Seems clear cut to me. If you sent out an e-mail saying Coke=Pettitte, how is this even an issue?
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Re: Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby converge241 » Sun May 20, 2012 10:21 pm

As an aside, if youre going to use placeholders it should be someone who wont contribute at all. Coke contributes. I cant imagine getting some K's and a W AND still being able to retain Petitte. That might sound crazy to some and can say "its just Phil Coke" but in many deeper leagues hes very usable. It should be someone whos not going to play at all (a minor leaguer down so far, retired player, etc). This tangent's not really relative to the issue I know..

Back to original point - rights were given up to petitte when peralta was added as many others have said. Coke WAS Petitte. The owner dropped Petitte for Peralta.

Its pretty open and shut, though Im sure the former petitte owner has some regrets and will be upset
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Re: Really tough Commissioner issue, Andy Pettitte

Postby ABA316 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:04 am

lane_anasazi2 wrote:
bigmck wrote:When he dropped Coke, he dropped Pettitte


Seems clear cut to me. If you sent out an e-mail saying Coke=Pettitte, how is this even an issue?


Period. Boilerplate.

@Converge, I hear Ryan Klesko is a good placeholder!

But seriously I agree with what Converge said..pick some NA guy or someone on DL out for year and use that guy to hold the spot.
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